[Gocamino] [saintjames] Re: Wise pilgrim

[Caroline Mathieson]

The danger of such devices of course is that can also take away from the camino experience. Many is the time I saw pilgrims walking along with iPods and ear buds who were oblivious to the sounds of nature around them. 

Caroline

On 21 Jul 2013, at 15:19, "Sil" <sillydoll at gmail.com> wrote:

> To add to Bob's list, we now have shirts that wick-away the sweat. Gortex
> shoes.  Telescopic walking poles. Sunglasses.  Motor cars, trains, buses.
> Telephones, email, Internet.  Elevators and escalators.
> And, we'd have to do without café-con-leche (coffee was only introduced in
> Europe in the 17thc) no tomatoes for those salsas, no patata tortiallas
> (potatoes were also only introduced in the 18th c) and many other delicious
> things we take for granted.  No - its not possible to replicate the
> medieval experience and every generation adds new technology to the walking
> pilgrim.
> 
> On 21 July 2013 15:51, Robert Spenger <rspenger at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> Devices - like trans-atlantic jet planes? Albergues, not only with running
>> water, but often heated? Like lightweight packs and well made walking
>> shoes? Credit cards and paper money instead of heavy coins? The list goes
>> on and on. It is not the same world; it is not possible to have the same
>> experience as a medieval pilgrim. Nor is it likely that anyone on this
>> forum has experienced the kind of life that the medieval folks lived just
>> staying at home.
>> 
>> I have done several caminos without mobile electronic devices except for
>> cameras. Now that I have an iPad mini (obviously not a necessity - just a
>> fun toy) I would like to find out just how much I can do with it. It is a
>> challenge, just like walking the camino in my 80s. Come to think of it, in
>> the old days I would have been lucky to have made it to half that age. A
>> couple of other devices come to mind. Corrective lenses have been around
>> for a couple of centuries at least, but certainly not available for the
>> 12th century pilgrim. Many modern folks would find it very difficult to get
>> by without their glasses. I manage to get lost even with them. Also, in my
>> own case, porcine tissue aortic valves were just a dream much less than a
>> century ago. Now there is an indispensable device for me at least. it is
>> not  electronic, but replacement heart valves were developed just about the
>> same time that the transistor was.
>> 
>> Bob S.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:27 PM, cwlowery at pga.com wrote:
>> 
>> Imagine when people walked this way without these devices you speak of.
>> Can you? If so, do you feel that they have a different experience to yours?
>> Imagine thousands of years ago. Tap away
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Robert Spenger" <rspenger at earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:29pm
>> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com, "Saint James †Yahoo" <
>> saintjames at yahoogroups.com>, gocamino at oakapple.net
>> Subject: [Gocamino] Wise pilgrim
>> 
>> Well, I have overcome one major road block (camino block?). I kept getting
>> the elevation plot for the first stage when I tapped on various arrows. I
>> finally found out that scrolling down that page reveals the promised
>> information. I have not found any directions in the application that
>> indicate this procedure. Not very intuitive I might say. Or am I just too
>> dense?
>> 
>> Bob S.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad mini
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