[Gocamino] Costume vs. disfraz

Wed May 20 07:18:18 PDT 2009

Another of the very many words that cause confusion when attempting to translate their phonetic etymology from a romance language into English is simpatia/ sympathy. In Spanish "Simpatia" means charm,  likeableness, friendliness, etc. and is the root of the better understood "simpatico", whereas in English "sympathy" is used as compassion., pity, commiseration.
The roots of the word are "sym"  (with) and "pathos" (emotion), so that while essentially faithful to their common source their interpretation seems to be owing to different cultural temperaments.
Yet, the one word that keeps its substance when translated into any language is "Camino" : the way and, the direction. The one distinctive application in the romance languages is that camino (with a small "c") also means "I walk".

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Ferguson <richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
To: Maria Garcia <mariacgb at hotmail.com>; gocamino at oakapple.net
Sent: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:20 pm
Subject: [Gocamino] Costume vs. disfraz

Actually, in English the word "costume" is 
orrect for this usage.   Costume refers to both 
he disfraz that you might wear to a costume 
arty or in a play, as well as various native 
ostumes.    So if a person wears blue jeans and 
 t-shirt most of the time, but on special 
ccasion dresses like someone might have dressed 
00 years ago, we would say that they are in 
heir "native costume."   We might also refer to 
t as "traditional costume" or perhaps 
traditional clothing", "native dress", "national

ostume", or "regional costume".
http://www.apparelsearch.com/Definitions/Clothing/national_costume_dress_definition.htm
It is always a problem to assume that you can 
dequately translate a single word in one 
anguage with one word in another language, there 
s almost always a subtle difference in meaning, 
r in this case a difference in correct usage.
So how would you say "traditional clothing" in 
panish?   Would it matter if the person wore the 
raditional clothing every day, or only on 
pecial occasions?
Richard

>Please don't refer to our traditional suits as 
costumes. In Spanish sounds  as disfraz, which 
is not. I am sure there is a better word in 
English than costume!!

>  To: GoCamino at oakapple.net; saintjames at yahoogroups.com
>  Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:55:37 -0400
>  From: blaroli at aol.com
>  CC: acaciopaz at yahoo.com.br
>  Subject: [Gocamino] A wedding!
>
>
>  Hello you all,
>
>  Pilgrims, who have received a Compostela, or a 
>Certificate, might remember Mari, the manager 
>of the pilgrims' office.  It is fairly 
>impossible to forget her if one has met her. 
>Not only is she physically beautiful, she is 
>unfailingly charming and she speaks, absolutely 
>flawlessly, English, French and German, besides 
>Galician and Castilian, of course.
>
>  During the years that she spent in 
>universities in England, France and Germany 
>pursuing her study of languages she was 
>showered with professional career offers that 
>would have signified dream jobs to most of us. 
>Yet, she turne
d them down to return to Santiago 
>and put her talents and abilities at the 
>service of the Camino and its pilgrims.  Her 
>persistence and delightful personality have 
>helped bring  about a great many changes and 
>improvements, by melting the dourness and 
>conservatism of many Xunta and Archdiocese 
>powers that be, such as  the on-going 
>renovations of the Casa del Dean, (the building 
>wherein the Pilgrims' office is located), the 
>enlargement of the Belvis albergue, etc. etc. 
>etc. For more than a decade her efforts on 
>behalf of the Camino and its pilgrims have been 
>tireless. While the Pilgrims' office is 
>supposed to close at nine p.m., it has not been 
>unusual to find Mari hard at work there until 
>midnight or such.
>
>  Because of her impressive efforts and 
>successes Mari has been named  "Hermana Mayor" 
>(a title of distinction) by the 
>Archconfraternity and has been honored 
>by20confraternities all over Europe and 
>IberoAmerica.
>
>  ....Well, Mari has decided to marry a fellow 
>Galician.  The wedding will take place next May 
>30th at 1:00 p.m. at the Colegiata de Santa 
>Maria la Mayor y Real de Sar, in Santiago, and 
>it is sure to be a memorable affair attended by 
>half the Archdiocese people, including the 
>choir, and everyone from the pilgrims' Office..
>
>  The subsequent reception in Cacheiras will be 
>a traditional Galician celebration with 
>bag-pipes, tambourines, etc., and many of those 
>attending, I'm sure, will be wea
ring Galician 
>costumes
>
>  If some of you are in Santiago on the day, you 
>may want to attend the wedding ceremony which 
>in Galicia is sure to be quite distinct, 
>colorful and full of admirable music.
>
>  Otherwise, those of you who have made Mari's 
>acquaintance (John? Peter? Chris? Mark?) May 
>want to e-mail your good wishes.
>
>  It has been said that physical beauty and 
>happiness are principally the result of the 
>inner goodness of the possessor. Certainly Mari 
>is living proof of that.  Knowing her one is 
>hard put to decide which is the greatest: her 
>beauty, her charm, her cheerfulness or her 
>undeniable goodness.
  >
>  While she is equivocal about it, I should 
>think that the ticking of the biological clock 
>has much to do with her decision to marry at 
>this time (she is in her early thirties), so I 
>doubt whether she'll have much time to devote 
>to Camino and pilgrims later on.
>
>  Meanwhile, you'll be happy to know, she has arranged for the pamphlets
>  that provide sundry types of information to 
>pilgrims to be translated into various 
>languages and made available to all pilgrims
>
>  In "Pride and Prejudice" Jane Austen has 
>Lizzie tell her sister Jane: "Until I have your 
>goodness I can never have your happiness". If 
>this be so, then Mari's own happiness is ever 
>assured.
>
>  .
>
>  Hugs!
>
>  Rosina
>
> 
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