[Gocamino] Matajudios????

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In the subject of - Mata - 
 
' Femme Fatale'  bio of Mata Hari is quite interesting.....
 
I know this has nothing to do with 'Camino' for those who question  me....
 
Ultreya...
Patricia de Miami
 
 
In a message dated 5/7/2009 12:16:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
marcuswilder2 at sbcglobal.net writes:

The  victims of mass killings varied with the territory.  That was a   
terrible war between people of violent passions.

In one of  Hemingway's books, Pilar describes how Communists threw four  
hundred  Rightist citizens of Ronda off a cliff.  That actually  happened.

More recently, search for mass graves of Franco victims was  abandoned  
when it was pointed out half of the mass graves were  filled with  
victims of the Communists.

A German Communist  journalist wrote with astonishment of a  
veterinarian still alive in  a Communist village.  The German  
photographed the veterinarian  to prove he had seen him.  In Communist  
villages, everyone who  knew anything or had anything was executed.

SPAIN BETRAYED, The Soviet  Union in the Spanish Civil War, from Yale  
University Press, presents  translations of Soviet documents and  
explains the place of each in  historical context.

It was a complicated war....

On May 7, 2009,  at 10:43 AM, Patricia Barboni wrote:

> Thanks to all who contributed  on this subject....really fascinating  
> (loved
> Grant's  diatribe)and for all the book recommendations... Here's some  
>  more on
> the mata subject.
>
> On one my visits to the  Basque country in recent years, a most  
> interesting
>  event occurred.  I was staying with friends in a small 500+-yr old   
> village,
> pop. less than 40. (won't name it to protect the  privacy of the  
> residents).
> It is one of those small  peaceful, idyllic villages where a  
> traveling priest
>  visits only once a month or so. The village church is equipped with   
> the "de
> rigueur" fronton using one of its outside walls and a  small, unkept
> graveyard with ancient headstones, overgrown with moss  and other  
> greenery.
> The church had a bell tower that  was in dire need of renovation,  
> since none
> had been  done for the past 200 yrs.  Soon after the workmen began  
>  their
> tasks there was much commotion....the workmen discovered a  small  
> locked room
> in the tower, which they needed to  access to perform their work.  Upon
> opening, they discovered  human remains, of what was estimated to be
> approximately 30 poor  souls. The local thought was that these were  
> Navarrans
>  who were executed by Franco's soldiers during the civil war.    
> Apparently
> sometimes a local priest would "negotiate" for the  preservation of his
> church by becoming party to obscuring the  evidence.
>
> There was a book my friends shared with me (the  title escapes me)  
> which was
> in Spanish, about 3-4  inches thick, written in the '80s.  It was a
> compilation of  first-person accounts from survivors and children of  
>  the
> deceased, including photos, regarding thousands of Navarrans  who  
> perished
> under Franco...how they were tortured and  executed.  The book was  
> written so
> that the lost  would not be forgotten.  I won't go into the gory  
> details,  but
> my tears were streaming as I read of the committed  atrocities.
>
> In noticing the reaction of the village residents  to the bell tower
> discovery, it would seem there are residual fears.  The guardia civil  
> came to
> the village to investigate.  There was no group discussion among the
> villagers, just quiet, hushed  comments here and there. A softer  
> "official"
> theory was  proposed by the investigators...that these were remains  
> that  were
> dug up during past renovations to the graveyard and just never  re- 
> interred.
> I don't think the locals "bought" that one...as  the remains were  
> more recent
> than the last  renovations.  My friends and I had our own candlelight
> memorial  for those who were lost.
>
> Personally, I prefer to think of the  names "Matamoros" and  
> "Matajudios" as
> something of an  homage to the perished ones....as a reminder of man's
> inhumanity to  man...lest we forget...and perhaps will encourage us  
> all to  be
> less judgmental, more forgiving, more loving.
>
> Besos  to all,
> Patricia in California
>
>
>
>
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