[Gocamino] Canonization of martyrs

Wed Oct 17 02:00:21 PDT 2007

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On 10/17/07, jethess777 at aol.com <jethess777 at aol.com> wrote:
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> Patricia,
> An interesting observation about dental health in Spain.? Unfortunately, I
> think it is true for most of Europe that lots of folks suffer from poor
> dental hygiene.? What I have seen in France, Italy, Britain and Belgium is
> just as bad as what I've seen in Spain.? I have looked into research that
> indicates lots of bodily sickness can stem from poor dental health including
> heart disease, kidney disease and a host of other maladies.?
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> Now about coverage for dental care.? The Spaniards have some co-pays for
> dental care, but it is still very inexpensive compared to her in the US.? I
> experienced a bad fall while running across a street in Madrid.? I stumbled
> and couldn't "catch" myself and landed face first into the street.?  I broke
> off one of my front teeth.? Some kind soul drive me to an emergency room,
> tooth in hand, where a doc examined my mouth, knee and chin, as all were
> injured in my stupid fall.? He concluded that nothing was broken, so he send
> me off in a taxi to a 24/7 dental office in another part of Madrid.? This
> was about 9 p.m. on a Friday night, mind you.? When I got there, X-rays
> were taken the dentist examined me and did repairs right then and there.? My
> own dentist saw me two months later and thought that the work was of good
> quality.? I was given two prescriptions for medicine by the Spanish dentist,
> one to alleviate swelling and the other was an antibiotic.? He was thorough,
> office was very clean and they were using all precautions against
> contamination (I am a nurse practitioner here in California) and put me at
> ease.? Really a very nice guy!? Total cost for the everything was 62 Euros.
> I was totally finished by 10:30 p.m.? Now you know the cost would have
> been hundreds here in the states and at that time of day and on a Friday
> night no less, the wait would have been hours and hours.? The office gal did
> ask for European "papers" as did the pharmacist next door.? So I know it
> would have been much cheaper for them.? Also a minimum of forms to fill
> out.? He basically asked about allergies and my health history while he had
> me in the chair.? This is what happens when there are fewer people apt to
> sue health care workers and lawyers less likely to be in the position of
> chasing ambulances.?
> Well, 'nuff said, but I thought that I would share my story.?
> -Joanie
> 2006 Pilgrim
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> From: Hathor821 at aol.com
> To: GOCAMINO at oakapple.net
> Sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 8:02 pm
> Subject: [Gocamino] Canonization of martyrs
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> Hmmmmmmmmmmm....interesting topic.
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> Would  I be canonized by the Vatican if I die in a  fight defending my
> mouth
> from being kissed while doing my Camino?
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> I am not attacking any particular race of nationality here but it was
> evident to me that dental daily maintenance is still a foreign concept to
> many,
> in
> Spain.  I have more patience understanding and accepting this in the
> old  but
> I don't have the same feelings of tolerance for the youth.   Granted, the
> majority of all of them smoke, but come on......is the twice
> daily  brushing of
> the teeth for many a weekend event in Spain?  The only well  kept mouths I
> saw
> during my Camino were in TV....when I had the opportunity, by  sheer
> chance, to
> be watching TV; I am sure the well to do have beautiful mouths,  too.
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> A well versed Spaniard who walked with us....(he is the pilgrim who
> smokes)
> told me that although with all the advances in Social Medicine in Spain,
> dental  services are not covered by the National Insurance but that if you
> happen
> to  wish to have a sex change operation and you happen to be a resident of
> the
> Southern Provinces, the Health Department of the region pays for the sex
> change  operation and all the stuff that needs to happen  before and after
> the
> surgery....hormones, mental therapy and so forth.
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> I think that Spain, a country I love to visit, has skipped a  few
> centuries
> from the XVII Century to today.  When it comes to  electricity and
> plumbing,
> my beloved Spaniards have really gotten very  confused!! and no better
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> to see this disparity than in the albergues and  pensions.
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> My Camino friend from Austin (she is a dentist)  run out of  Dental Floss
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> later commented to me that it was difficult to find  it and  that when she
> did, it was very expensive.  Her own survey  of the usage of dental floss
> resulted, I think, that l00% of those asked had  never used it.
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> And....while in Alicante observing the crowds that got in the bus and
> observing their teeth, I thought....''If I have to be in a position where
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> the choice to be raped or to be kissed, I would opt for the rape rather
> than the
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> kiss'' ---plllllllllllllls it is joke!
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> Patricia de Miami
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