[Gocamino] How to Build a Cathedral,,,

Bridget Highfill highbell at sbcglobal.net
Mon May 21 19:08:24 PDT 2007


My brother has mentioned it as a good read too.  I must put it on my list for the post-camino months when I am yearning to return to Europe.
  Bridget

Paul Skip Newfield III <skip at thebrasscannon.com> wrote:
  

On the construction of a cathedral...

I recommend ~Pillars of the Earth~, a novel by Ken Follett.
It was recommended to me by several fellow pilgrims while I was walking
the Camino. Besides being an engrossing story over several generations,
the technical details of the construction itself makes the book worth
reading.

Paul Newfield


> xm,
>
> While the cathedral of Santiago definitely contains a tomb, your
> suggestion entirely misses the semantic point that Mary is making.
> In all churches it's called a nave, whether or not someone is
> entombed there.
>
> I, too, have wondered about the connection between the two words and
> their different usages, and Mary's interpretation sounds plausible at
> the very least. The thought that went into the construction of
> medieval cathedrals, whether through theological symbolism,
> acoustics, etc. was amazing. They were the architectural wonders of
> the age.
>
> Best,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Elcaminomejala at aol.com wrote:
>
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>> Could it be that it's just a tomb, a grandiose tomb? Best, xm
>>
>> In a message dated 5/20/2007 2:36:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> mvwallis at pathcom.ca writes:
>>
>> HI everyone - about the nave as church and nave as ship
>> distinction that
>> Rosina referred to. There is a strong medieval tradition or topos
>> of the
>> church as a ship carrying the Christian soul across the tossing
>> ocean of
>> life to salvation. There are Old Testament references that feed
>> into this,
>> e.g., Noah's ark, which was thought in the patristic tradition to
>> prefigure
>> the Church of the New Testament, holding. the Christian soul in
>> safety on
>> the sea etc etc.... you get the idea. In the patristic literature
>> of the
>> early Christian fathers, you are either on the ship or off it.
>> It's bad to
>> be off it . In many seacoast churches, especially where there
>> were sailors,
>>
>> an actual ship replica can be found in the nave. So there is an
>> intentional
>> play on words in the two meanings.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: 
>> To: ; 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:34 AM
>> Subject: [Gocamino] Cameras in Santiago
>>
>>
>>> Hello you all,
>>> Sil has posted a site that accesses cameras showing views of
>>> three (of
>>> the four) squares around the Cathedral, and of the ambulatory
>>> people in
>>> them, and of two inside views of the Cathedral.
>>> Lovely, evocative and active views of the Quintana, Praterias and
>>> Obradeiro squares can be seen. The Quintana view includes the
>>> entrance way
>>> to the Holy Door and the door of the Archicofradia's information
>>> office.
>>> For some reason, Azabacherias Square is not included (?)
>>> Also, the English translation is not precise. The pictures of
>>> the inside
>>> of the Cathedral refer to it as the Cathedral's "ship". This is a
>>> mistranslation of the word "nave" which, when applied to a
>>> church means
>>> the long narrow central hall of a church in a cruciform that
>>> rises higher
>>> than the aisles flanking it.
>>> While in Spanish the word "nave" also means ship this is not the
>>> meaning
>>> intended in the titles of the pictures.
>>> (By the way, Columbus' voyage was not made on three caravels; the
>>> Santa
>>> Maria was a "nave" which was a larger ship built by the
>>> Portuguese (a
>>> "nao") so that its surface and holds would resemble somewhat the
>>> interior
>>> of a church; the Pinta and the Nina were carabels, which were
>>> smaller and
>>> designed differently).
>>> At any rate, the site for the cameras is:
>>>
>>> http://www.santiagoturismo.com/camaras/
>>>
>>> Please note that the last word. camaras, is spelled with three
>>> "a"s, which
>>> is the spelling in Spanish.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Sil. You really are a doll. The pictures and videos
>>> have
>>> made me very much aware of my need to go to Santiago for
>>> spiritual nurture
>>> and soul-joy. If I didn't have to go to Rio next Tuesday, for
>>> my one
>> free
>>> week before May 30th, I would take off for Santiago forthwith.
>>>
>>> And, Grant, thanks for the words to the Hymn that accompanies the
>>> Botafumeiro. I had no idea.
>>>
>>> Hugs!
>>>
>>> Rosina
>>>
>>>
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