[Gocamino] How to Build a Cathedral,,,

[Paul Skip Newfield III]

On the construction of a cathedral...

I recommend ~Pillars of the Earth~, a novel by Ken Follett.
It was recommended to me by several fellow pilgrims while I was walking
the Camino.  Besides being an engrossing story over several generations,
the technical details of the construction itself makes the book worth
reading.

Paul Newfield


> xm,
>
> While the cathedral of Santiago definitely contains a tomb, your
> suggestion entirely misses the semantic point that Mary is making.
> In all churches it's called a nave, whether or not someone is
> entombed there.
>
> I, too, have wondered about the connection between the two words and
> their different usages, and Mary's interpretation sounds plausible at
> the very least.  The thought that went into the construction of
> medieval cathedrals, whether through theological symbolism,
> acoustics, etc. was amazing.  They were the architectural wonders of
> the age.
>
> Best,
>
> Steve
>
>
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> On May 20, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Elcaminomejala at aol.com wrote:
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>> Could it be that it's just a tomb, a grandiose tomb? Best, xm
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>> In a message dated 5/20/2007 2:36:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> mvwallis at pathcom.ca writes:
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>> HI  everyone - about the nave as church and nave as ship
>> distinction that
>> Rosina referred to. There is a strong medieval tradition or topos
>> of  the
>> church as a ship carrying the Christian soul across the tossing
>> ocean of
>> life to salvation. There are Old Testament references that  feed
>> into this,
>> e.g.,  Noah's ark, which was thought in the  patristic tradition to
>> prefigure
>> the Church of the New Testament,  holding. the Christian soul in
>> safety on
>> the sea etc etc.... you get  the idea. In the patristic literature
>> of the
>> early Christian  fathers, you are either on the ship or off it.
>> It's bad to
>> be off it  . In  many seacoast churches, especially where there
>> were sailors,
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>> an actual ship replica can be found in the nave. So there is an
>> intentional
>> play on words in the two  meanings.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:  <blaroli at aol.com>
>> To: <GoCamino at oakapple.net>;  <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:34  AM
>> Subject: [Gocamino] Cameras in Santiago
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>>> Hello you  all,
>>> Sil has posted a site that  accesses   cameras  showing views of
>>> three (of
>>> the four) squares  around the Cathedral, and of the ambulatory
>>> people in
>>> them, and  of two inside views of the Cathedral.
>>> Lovely, evocative and  active views of the Quintana, Praterias and
>>> Obradeiro squares  can be seen. The Quintana view includes the
>>> entrance way
>>> to the  Holy Door and the door of the Archicofradia's information
>>> office.
>>> For some reason, Azabacherias Square is not included  (?)
>>> Also, the English translation is not precise.  The  pictures of
>>> the inside
>>> of the Cathedral refer to it as the  Cathedral's "ship".  This is a
>>> mistranslation of the word  "nave" which, when applied to  a
>>> church means
>>> the long  narrow central hall of a church in a cruciform that
>>> rises higher
>>> than the aisles flanking it.
>>> While in Spanish the word  "nave" also means ship this is not the
>>> meaning
>>> intended in the  titles of the pictures.
>>> (By the way, Columbus' voyage was not  made on three caravels; the
>>> Santa
>>> Maria was a "nave" which was  a larger ship built by the
>>> Portuguese (a
>>> "nao") so that its  surface and holds would resemble somewhat the
>>> interior
>>> of a  church; the Pinta and the Nina were carabels, which were
>>> smaller and
>>> designed differently).
>>> At any rate, the site for the  cameras is:
>>>
>>>  http://www.santiagoturismo.com/camaras/
>>>
>>> Please note that  the last word. camaras, is spelled with three
>>> "a"s, which
>>> is  the  spelling in Spanish.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Sil. You  really are a doll. The pictures and videos
>>> have
>>> made me very  much aware of my need to go to Santiago for
>>> spiritual nurture
>>>  and soul-joy.  If I didn't have to go to Rio next Tuesday, for
>>> my  one
>> free
>>> week before May 30th, I would take off for Santiago  forthwith.
>>>
>>> And, Grant, thanks for the words to the Hymn  that accompanies the
>>> Botafumeiro.  I had no  idea.
>>>
>>> Hugs!
>>>
>>>  Rosina
>>>
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