[Gocamino] The Cathedral

Sil sillydoll at gmail.com
Sun May 20 12:22:30 PDT 2007


An interesting symbol for me is the half pyramid and all seeing eye painted
on the ceiling of the vault.  It reminds me of the symbol on the back of the
$1 bill!



On 20/05/07, Sil <sillydoll at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't see how?  The nave is the middle part of the body of the church,
> extending from the rail of the choir right to the entrance of the church.
> Perhaps a ship carrying all those inside is not a bad analogy.
>
> On 20/05/07, Elcaminomejala at aol.com <Elcaminomejala at aol.com> wrote:
> >
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> > Could it be that it's just a tomb, a grandiose tomb? Best, xm
> >
> > In a message dated 5/20/2007 2:36:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > mvwallis at pathcom.ca writes:
> >
> > HI  everyone - about the nave as church and nave as ship distinction
> > that
> > Rosina referred to. There is a strong medieval tradition or topos
> > of  the
> > church as a ship carrying the Christian soul across the tossing  ocean
> > of
> > life to salvation. There are Old Testament references that  feed into
> > this,
> > e.g.,  Noah's ark, which was thought in the  patristic tradition to
> > prefigure
> > the Church of the New Testament,  holding. the Christian soul in safety
> > on
> > the sea etc etc.... you get  the idea. In the patristic literature of
> > the
> > early Christian  fathers, you are either on the ship or off it. It's bad
> > to
> > be off it  . In  many seacoast churches, especially where there were
> > sailors,
> >
> > an actual ship replica can be found in the nave. So there is
> > an  intentional
> > play on words in the two  meanings.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:  <blaroli at aol.com>
> > To: <GoCamino at oakapple.net>;  < saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:34  AM
> > Subject: [Gocamino] Cameras in Santiago
> >
> >
> > > Hello you  all,
> > > Sil has posted a site that  accesses   cameras  showing views of three
> > (of
> > > the four) squares  around the Cathedral, and of the ambulatory people
> > in
> > > them, and  of two inside views of the Cathedral.
> > > Lovely, evocative and  active views of the Quintana, Praterias and
> > > Obradeiro squares  can be seen. The Quintana view includes the
> > entrance way
> > > to the  Holy Door and the door of the Archicofradia's
> > information  office.
> > > For some reason, Azabacherias Square is not included  (?)
> > > Also, the English translation is not precise.  The  pictures of the
> > inside
> > > of the Cathedral refer to it as the  Cathedral's "ship".  This is a
> > > mistranslation of the word  "nave" which, when applied to  a church
> > means
> > > the long  narrow central hall of a church in a cruciform that rises
> > higher
> > > than the aisles flanking it.
> > > While in Spanish the word  "nave" also means ship this is not the
> > meaning
> > > intended in the  titles of the pictures.
> > > (By the way, Columbus' voyage was not  made on three caravels; the
> > Santa
> > > Maria was a "nave" which was  a larger ship built by the Portuguese (a
> > > "nao") so that its  surface and holds would resemble somewhat the
> > interior
> > > of a  church; the Pinta and the Nina were carabels, which were smaller
> > and
> > > designed differently).
> > > At any rate, the site for the  cameras is:
> > >
> > >  http://www.santiagoturismo.com/camaras/
> > >
> > > Please note that  the last word. camaras, is spelled with three "a"s,
> > which
> > > is  the  spelling in Spanish.
> > >
> > > Thanks again, Sil. You  really are a doll. The pictures and videos
> > have
> > > made me very  much aware of my need to go to Santiago for spiritual
> > nurture
> > >  and soul-joy.  If I didn't have to go to Rio next Tuesday, for
> > my  one
> > free
> > > week before May 30th, I would take off for Santiago  forthwith.
> > >
> > > And, Grant, thanks for the words to the Hymn  that accompanies the
> > > Botafumeiro.  I had no  idea.
> > >
> > > Hugs!
> > >
> > >  Rosina
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