[Gocamino] Re: California missions

John Volz srjandm at sbcglobal.net
Thu Oct 6 15:28:42 PDT 2005


Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the California Missions are not all 
in a row about a day's walk apart unless you are a real power walker.


For example the report of the San Luis Rey Mission from 1827 gives the 
distances to the nearest missions as 12 leagues to San Juan Capistrano and 
13.5 leagues to San Diego.  A league is about 3.4 miles, so these would be 
serious days. Some missions are a bit closer but many are further apart.

Most inter mission travel during the heyday of the Missions (Circa 
1780-1830s) was by donkey (burro).

John Volz
Santa Rosa Ca

Docent, Sonoma Mission



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Rhoades" <rrhoades3 at kc.rr.com>
To: <gocamino at oakapple.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: [Gocamino] Re: California missions


> Grant,
> This past June my wife and I visited the "mission" in Santa Barbara and 
> enjoyed reading the history of how these
> missions originated and were planned / built up along the California coast 
> by early spanish/mexico, all being a days walk from each other.
>
> Roger Rhoades
> April 2004 Camino Frances
>
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>> The Franciscans indeed helped to get California settled.
>>
>> The Jesuits were actually the first salvo of priests, but they fell from
>> favor, were recalled to Spain, and the Franciscans were sent in their 
>> stead.
>> Padre Junipero Serra was the most prolific of mission-founding padres, 
>> and
>> established outposts a day's walk apart. Rather reminiscent of the Camino
>> Frances and the towns, churches, hospitales and albergues we know. Some 
>> of
>> those missions evolved into rather large metro areas, but the names 
>> remain:
>> San Diego, San Bernardino, San Buenaventura (aka 'Ventura', my home 
>> town),
>> Santa Barbara, and so forth on up to San Francisco. The original full 
>> title
>> of LA was "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles del Río de
>> Porciúncula", rather a mouthful. Small wonder that an economy of words 
>> was
>> employed to truncate the title to 'Los Angeles'. The mission Nuestra 
>> Señora
>> la Reina de los Angeles ('Our Lady Queen of the Angels') still exists, 
>> but
>> alas as a reproduction on Olivera Street.
>>
>> Grant
>>
>> Grant Spangler
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>> Subject: RE: [Gocamino] Accessing the winning photograph
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>> Some speak little or no Spanish, so, for an albeit poor Spanish-English
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