Ultreia E Suseia

[Maura Santangelo]

ultra, adverb and preposition in Latin, according to my dictionary from
my days in the Liceo, means 'beyond, in addition to'  as in  'usque ad
Accium et ultra'  (to Accio and beyond) I do not know what form ultreya
is in.  Our English ulterior is derived from it.  The form ultro is
also an adverb and has a similar meaning 'further, on the other side,
in addition to, spontaneously' miserescimus ultro (in addition we feel
compassion) .  Sus is another adverb it means above

If the quote is indeed ultreya e suseya, and not 'et' my guess is that
this is not latin but what we would call volgare in Italian.  The
transitional form of latin.

There must be a medieval scholar out there who can help us

Maura
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 12:02 AM, Bob Spenger wrote:

> Presumably ultreia and suseia, each pronounced with four syllables, are
> directly from Latin and not from one of the many derived languages,
> since they appear in hymns that are in Latin. Even in a French camino
> song that I learned a while back, the verses were in French, but the
> chorus, which had these words, was in Latin. I can't find them in Latin
> dictionaries and it has been almost 64 years since I finished with my
> meager two years of high school Latin, so I remember very little of it.
> I mentioned the four syllables, since the particular hymn that I have
> on
> hand at this moment shows them drawn out this way. In fact, there are
> five notes for each, with two notes for the third syllable in each
> (i.e.
> the "I"). I believe that this hymn was one that was sent in by Pieter
> to
> one or another of the pilgrim internet groups.
>
> regards,
>
> Robert Spenger
> rspengeraadelphia.net
>