[Gocamino] [!! SPAM] Re: [saintjames] Re: Wise pilgrim

Mary Wallis mvwallis at xplornet.com
Sun Jul 21 08:20:57 PDT 2013


Other than providing amusing conversation and interesting insights into our 
modern world and the progress of history, I am not sure that trying to 
replicate anybody's experience is the point of the Camino. I know everyone 
knows that, but I thought the point was worth making.

Mary

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sil
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Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [Gocamino] [saintjames] Re: Wise pilgrim

To add to Bob's list, we now have shirts that wick-away the sweat. Gortex
shoes.  Telescopic walking poles. Sunglasses.  Motor cars, trains, buses.
Telephones, email, Internet.  Elevators and escalators.
And, we'd have to do without café-con-leche (coffee was only introduced in
Europe in the 17thc) no tomatoes for those salsas, no patata tortiallas
(potatoes were also only introduced in the 18th c) and many other delicious
things we take for granted.  No - its not possible to replicate the
medieval experience and every generation adds new technology to the walking
pilgrim.

On 21 July 2013 15:51, Robert Spenger <rspenger at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Devices - like trans-atlantic jet planes? Albergues, not only with running
> water, but often heated? Like lightweight packs and well made walking
> shoes? Credit cards and paper money instead of heavy coins? The list goes
> on and on. It is not the same world; it is not possible to have the same
> experience as a medieval pilgrim. Nor is it likely that anyone on this
> forum has experienced the kind of life that the medieval folks lived just
> staying at home.
>
> I have done several caminos without mobile electronic devices except for
> cameras. Now that I have an iPad mini (obviously not a necessity - just a
> fun toy) I would like to find out just how much I can do with it. It is a
> challenge, just like walking the camino in my 80s. Come to think of it, in
> the old days I would have been lucky to have made it to half that age. A
> couple of other devices come to mind. Corrective lenses have been around
> for a couple of centuries at least, but certainly not available for the
> 12th century pilgrim. Many modern folks would find it very difficult to 
> get
> by without their glasses. I manage to get lost even with them. Also, in my
> own case, porcine tissue aortic valves were just a dream much less than a
> century ago. Now there is an indispensable device for me at least. it is
> not  electronic, but replacement heart valves were developed just about 
> the
> same time that the transistor was.
>
> Bob S.
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:27 PM, cwlowery at pga.com wrote:
>
> Imagine when people walked this way without these devices you speak of.
> Can you? If so, do you feel that they have a different experience to 
> yours?
> Imagine thousands of years ago. Tap away
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Robert Spenger" <rspenger at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:29pm
> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com, "Saint James †Yahoo" <
> saintjames at yahoogroups.com>, gocamino at oakapple.net
> Subject: [Gocamino] Wise pilgrim
>
> Well, I have overcome one major road block (camino block?). I kept getting
> the elevation plot for the first stage when I tapped on various arrows. I
> finally found out that scrolling down that page reveals the promised
> information. I have not found any directions in the application that
> indicate this procedure. Not very intuitive I might say. Or am I just too
> dense?
>
> Bob S.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad mini
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Sil
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