[Gocamino] [saintjames] Wherefrom "Santiago"?

[Diane Maxon]

There is also, of course, Diego.  How does that fit in?




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Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 5:38:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [saintjames] Wherefrom "Santiago"?

I have long suspected this. Since Willy-boy was a young man of about 24 years at 
the Armada, it probably made a deep impression and it is not surprising that he 
would name his villain after the patron saint of Spain.

In regard to the variations of the name, it is easy to see the relationship of 
Jacob and even Jacques to Iacobus. But how did Giacomo arise and how did the 
English end up with James (from Giacomo perhaps?) and how does Jaime fit into 
all this? Also not mentioned by Peter Moore was that Iacobus was derived from 
the name in Greek, which was in turn derived form Hebrew, which would be the 
original as far as the saint was concerned although the name might have had 
other predecessors before it was given to him.

Bob S/.

On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Rosina wrote:


Hello you all,
If you have been among the one thousand million people on our planet watching 
the World Cup games, you couldn't have failed to notice the name "Tiago" on the 
shirt of one of the Portuguese players. The name is quite popular in Portugal 
and in Brasil in that form which is, of course de origin of San (Saint) Tiago. 
In Spain both the adjective San and the name Tiago were popularly combined into 
"Santiago" which is as popular a Christian name in Spain as Tiago is in both 
Portugal and Brasil.
But, how did the biblical original name "Jacob" metamorphosed into Tiago and 
Santiago? About ten years ago a message was posted on the list serve who 
preceded, by two, the present "Go Camino" one. Of the thousands of postings in 
the list servs over the past decade I have kept only four messages , and that is 
one of them. It reads:
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"In 1996 Peter R. Moore wrote an illuminating article about the connection
between "Shakespeare's Iago and Santiago Matamoros".
As has been mentioned here several times, the name Santiago is a contraction
of San Iago; "Iago" derives from the Latin "Iacobus"; "Sanctus Iacobus", the
patron saint of Spain, became "Sanct Iago" and "Santiago". (The use of Iago
as a first name fell in disuse in Spain as it became replaced with Santiago,
but in Portugal and Brazil the name Tiago continues to be used and it is
quite popular).
Shakespeare, as most playwrights of his time, adapted popular novellas for
the theater. The Othello story comes from an Italian work by Giraldo Cinthio
called "Hecatommithi"; specifically from the seventh novella in the third
decade of the work, which was published in 1566. The plot involves a villain,
and a handkerchief which is used to deceive his Moorish superior.
In Cinthio's novella the only character who has a name is "Disdemona"
(apparently derived from Heraclitus "ehtos antropoi daimon" -character is
destiny-"). The Iago character is referred to as "lo scellerato alfieri" but 
never
addressed by name.
Shakespeare very likely chose the name Iago because it created a hostile
sound for the English audiences. "Santiago y cierra Espana", invoking the
assistance of Santiago Matamoros, had been the Spaniards war cry during
1585-1604, a cry well known in England throughout the twenty-year war.
The Spanish connection is also suggested by Iago's use of a Spaniard word:
"Who's that who rings the bell? Diablo, ho!", also Othello kills himself
with a "sword of Spain" . Of course, it is Iago who brings about the death
of a Moor and becomes thereby a "matamoro".

Liz"
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Hugs!

Rosina

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