[Gocamino] [saintjames] Authors' donations

Wed Jun 4 06:33:46 PDT 2008

The site only contains those donations made electronically through a credit  or debit card.

Donations made by check,  cash, or other property are not included there.  A fact, that, thankfully, we have known for some time.
I just looked myself up and, sure enough,  those contributions I made, (foolishly and lazily), electronically are included there, but none of the ones made by check or otherwise, 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sil <sillydoll at gmail.com>
To: saintjames at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 4:36 am
Subject: Re: [saintjames] Authors' donations

Donations to any fund are no longer sacrosant - as you will see from this
olitical website:
All you have to do is type in a name - eg: Smith - and you will see who
onated what to whom!
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=smith&fname=&search=Search
Want to know if a celebrity is playing both sides of the fence? Whether that
ew guy you're seeing is actually a Republican or just dresses like one? If
our boss maxed out at that fundraiser or got comped? Whether your
eighbor's political involvement stops at that hideous lawn sign?
FundRace makes it easy to search by name or address to see which
residential candidates your friends, family, co-workers, and neighbors are
ontributing to. Or you can see if your favorite celebrity is putting their
oney where their mouth is.
FundRace gives you the technology to do what politicians and journalists
ave been doing for years: find out where the money's coming from, see who
t's going to, and solve the mystery of why that crazy ex-roommate of yours
s now the Ambassador to Turks and Caicos.

008/6/2 Rosina <Blaroli at aol.com>:
>   Shirley McLaine's donations of her Camino profits were reported in a tax
 publicatio ,  some years ago as a cautionary note to those Americans making
 donations to non-profit groups abroad. Apparently, (and surprisingly, for an
 actress), Shirley is a very private person when it comes to her personal
 life and her gifts to charities. As I remember, the article mentioned the
 arrangement that the actress had made with her publishers to allocate a
 specified percentage of her net royalties directly to the various
 ecclesiastical authorities, to be used for churches' restoration and
 maintenance. The article was authored by an attorney/cpa.

 Pusuant to my statement, in an earlier message about the German book, which
 stated that I do not know of any donations made by author Coelho, Acacio
 Paz, a Brasilian pilgrim who sponsors a pilgrims' albergue in the Camino,
 just informed me that Coelho does help in Camino-related activities as he
 can; in Acacio's albergue, for instance, he donated many things such as
 baths and showers, beds and mattresses, a full kitchen, doors and windows,
 and other things. And, Acacio informs, this year Coelho donated more than
 8,000 tons of cut lumber to Tomas de Majarin so that Tomas, and pilgrims,
 could withstand the winter. Acacio says that Coelho himself purchased, and
 paid for, the lumber and arranged for its delivery; and lastly, Acacio
 mentions that he knows of other places that have received help from Coelho
 but that he, Acacio, is not at liberty to disclose.

 We, in the USA, can only make tax-deductible donations to groups abroad,
 such as the Camino's, through a properly registered non-profit organization
 (501-c-3)  that meets the criteria of the IRS. American Pilgrims on the
 Camino is such an organization. A couple of years ago we donated more than
 $1,000.00 for the betterment of the Pilgrims' Office computer system through
 American Pilgrims on the Camino, and were able to tax-deduct our
 contributions because we made them to APC which, in turn, forwarded them to
 Santiago.  Right now there is a group of nuns commencing an eminently worthy
 project in the Camino including, possibly, an albergue, and the genesis of
 an organization through which we can funnel contributions, etc., is
 beginning to take shape in Boston.

 Hugs!

 Rosina

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Acacio Paz <acaciopaz at yahoo.com.br <acaciopaz%40yahoo.com.br>>
 To: blaroli at aol.com <blaroli%40aol.com>
 Sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 3:44 pm
 Subject: HELP PLEASE

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 Querida Rosina

 Gostaria que vc pudesse esclarecer estas dúvida em Ingles por favor, mesmo
 sabendo de que vc náo gosta de Coelho , mas todos devemos ser justos com
 quem está fazendo coisas no anonimato.

 Muitos náo sabe e náo tem a informaçáo correta.

 Estáo dizendo de que Shirley Maclaine faz doaçáo no Caminho de Santiago ?
 Sinceramente estes anos todos eu desconheço e sei que em Roncesvalles quem
 estáo ali sáo os da associaçáo da Alemaha, Pamplona esta sendo gestionado
 pela propria associaçáo de Navarra, Burgos é com o dinheiro da associaçáo de
 Burgos e Santiago sei que é dinheiro da Xunta de Galica, da Shirley náo sei
 e nem tenho esta informaçáo.

 O de Coelho posso afirmar de que ele ajuda com o que ele pode fazer, e aqui
 em Viloria ele contribuiu com muita coisa, banhos e duchas, camas e
 colchóes, cozinha completa,janelas e portas, e outros detalhes mais.

 Ele este ano foi quem fez a doaçáo de mais de 8.000 toneladas de lenha já
 cortada para Tomas de Manjarin para ele passar o inverno e os peregrinos, eu
 mesmo fui o responsável de fazer o pagamento, comprar a lenha contratar o
 caminháo e providenciar quando poderia ser entregue a lenha.

 Sei tambem de outros lugares que ele ajudou mas náo tenho a autorizaçáo
 dele para dizer.

 Acredito que os que fazem sua fama com temas do caminho de santiago tem um
 compromisso com ele sim, apesar de isso náo ser verdade pois o mesmo passa
 com inúmeros outros escritores, cineastas, pintores, construtores, gente
 desconhecida que tbém se faz em volta do caminho de asntiago e certamente
 tudo fica no esquecimento. Será que o alemáo tbém vai fazer alguma coisa
 pelo caminho ?

 Obrigado se vc pode traduzir este desabafo, pois náo me gusta de ser
 injusto com pessoas que eu sei o que estáo fazendo em troca de no minimo
 agradecer o que o caminho deu a cada um e ainda está dando.

 Beijos

 Acacio & Orietta

 -------Mensaje original-------

 De: Rosina

 Fecha: 02/06/2008 21:24:39

 Para: saintjames at yahoogroups.com <saintjames%40yahoogroups.com>

 CC: GOCAMINO at oakapple.net <GOCAMINO%40oakapple.net>

 Asunto: Re: [saintjames] Re: [Gocamino] Another multi-million seller Camino
 book

 The German author has, in fact, donated most of the book's profits to
 several charitable organizations, including Camino facilities.
 So, in fact, did Shirley McLaine years ago. Much to her surprise and too
 late, it seems, she learned that donations to non-USA organizations by
 American citizens are not tax deductible, but are, in fact, taxable gifts!.
 Eventually she had to pay gift-taxes on the sizable donations she made to
 the church groups in Roncesvalles, Pamplona, Leon, Burgos, Santiago and
 others.
 I do not know whether Coelho has donated any of the huge profits from his
 Camino book to anyone.  In 2004 he did appear, for free, in a video to
 accompany a de-luxe edition picture-book on the Camino published by the
 Xunta to raise funds.
 Living in New York City, and in a society imbued in a strained relationship
 with religion, I was quite taken aback to learn that in Austria the citizens
 of that country overwhelmingly voted to devote a significant portion of
 their taxes to the support and maintenance of their churches!
 Because of this cultural trait, I suppose, the generosity of the German
 Camino author has not surprised me.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Glenn <guha2005 at hotmail.com <guha2005%40hotmail.com>>
 To: GOCAMINO at oakapple.net <GOCAMINO%40oakapple.net>;
 saintjames at yahoogroups.com <saintjames%40yahoogroups.com>; Rosina <
 blaroli at aol.com <blaroli%40aol.com>>
 Cc: acaciopaz at yahoo.com.br <acaciopaz%40yahoo.com.br>
 Sent: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 2:45 pm
 Subject: [saintjames] Re: [Gocamino] Another multi-million seller Camino
 book

 I visited my relatives in Hamburg in September 2006 and they told me of the

 book. I purchased it there and skimmed through it and did not like it at
 all. I know that there has been this long discussion on who is a pilgrim
 and who is not, but I have to admit that my impression was that Kerkling
 was
 not like any pilgrim I had met.

 The crowds I met on the Camino in 2007 were attributed to that book by
 German pilgrims I got to know along the way. They thought that Kerkling
 should give the profits from that book to the various associations that
 maintain the Camino. It seemed to us that many in the crowds were trying to

 replicate Kerkling's experiences, and they often had support systems, like
 vans or buses, along the way at various points. We noticed the telltale day

 packs and sparkling clean shoes. One problem with this was at the bars that

 were overrun with demanding people. I never saw that in 2005 during the
 same time period.

 Kerkling's book seemed like a farce to me of a place and experience that is

 very dear to my heart. The Coelho book, however, led me to the Camino. I
 never heard of it before reading that book. It caused me to do research on
 the Camino and to look into Internet groups for information. I took the
 things that he wrote as metaphors for some of the struggles that I
 identified in my own life.

 Glenn

 >
 > Hello you all,
 >
 > El Correo Gallego, the Galician newspaper, carries an article today about

 > another multi-million-copies best seller Camino book.
 >
 > The book is called, in German, "Ich bin dann mal weg" (On my way [to the
 > Camino]), was written by a German humorist, Hape Kerkeling, and it has
 > sold more than three million copies already. Since its publication in
 May,
 > 2006, the book has been in first or second place in the best-seller
 > nonfiction category lists published by the German newspapers. Its success

 > was totally unexpected since the original issue was only 50,000 copies.
 >
 > The author of the book is a well-known TV comedian who went to the Camino

 > to try to cope with a serious personal crisis. While he took his
 > pilgrimage seriously he couldn't help portray his efforts and experiences

 > as a pilgrim, and those of other pilgrims, in caricature form in his
 book.
 >
 > The book became an immediate success with its readers, although it was
 > panned by literary critics. The chief editor of the magazine
 "Literaturen",
 > Sigrid Loffler, herself a Camino pilgrim, had written a book about the
 > pilgrimage which even although it was published by the prestigious firm
 > Cees Nooteboom received little notice. Freulein Loffler confesses to
 being
 > perplexed by the exit of Kerkeling's Camino book adding that: "first
 > Coelho wrote an idiotic book about the Camino and the book was a
 > tremendous success, and now Kerkeling writes an even more idiotic book
 > about the pilgrimage and it is a smash".
 >
 > Personally, I disliked Coelho's book and did not get beyond the first ten

 > pages or so…. Why it has sold more than fifty million copies in umpteen
 > languages is a total mystery to me…. If the German book is in the same
 > vein I doubt very much that I would bother with it….. nevertheless, when
 I
 > am in Germany next August (for the Bayreuth Wagner Festival……..hurrah!!!)

 > I'll look around to see whether the book has been translated into English

 > or into a more accessible language. Bayreuth, by the way, is a tiny,
 > beautiful Bavarian town, with the most important opera house in the
 > universe, built by Richard Wagner himself, another lovely rococo
 > theatre…. -so beautiful, in fact. that neither the Nazis nor the Allies
 > had the heart to destroy it in WW II….. although they destroyed almost
 > everything else, including Wahnfried!-, a university, and about twenty
 > bookstores! (I understand that the permanent residents of the town number

 > about 5,000).
 >
 > I'll let you know whether there are any translations.
 >
 > Hugs!
 >
 > Rosina
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