[Gocamino] [saintjames] Clarity on Credentials

Fri Jan 25 22:48:04 PST 2008

Hello Pat,
Over the past two years a new type of 'peregrino' has been described - the
'touro-grino' who are given printed credentials compiled by individuals or
tour companies.  They mostly travel in buses or with vehicle back-up but
stay in the albergues.  There have been reports of tour buses dropping
tourogrinos off a kilometer or so before a village so that they can walk
into the village and claim a bed in the albergue.  They are then picked up
again a kilometer or so on the other side the following day.
This is the one problem.
The second problem, which we saw all along the way last year, are bus loads
of pilgrims carrying the official credential, having them stamped at cafe
bars, museums, even stopping at albergues, opening the doors and stamping
their credentials which they present at the pilgrim's office for a
Compostela.
The Pilgrim's Office made a decision that only the official Spanish
credential, issued by the Church, will be accepted.  Confraternities around
the world (led by the French Association St Jacques - the first St James
confraternity to be formed in the 1940s) objected.  The Pilgrims Office has
now clarified the matter.  Their decision was aimed at organisations within
Spain - not at the Confraternities outside of Spain that may continue to
issue credentials for use in the albergues and for the purpose of obataining
a credential.
Abrazos,

On 25/01/2008, blaroli at aol.com <blaroli at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Pat,
>
> There are a whole lot of?postings that referred to this matter when the
> issue first arose months ago. Perhaps you can look for them in the GoCamino
> archives under "credentials"... or something. I don't know how to access old
> messages, but surely someone in the list-serv will disclose the means.
> Regards,
> Rosina
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Rush <patrush1 at verizon.net>
> To: blaroli at aol.com; saintjames at yahoogroups.com; GOCAMINO at oakapple.net
> Sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 4:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [saintjames] Clarity on Credentials
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> Rosina et al.? Would someone kindly explain to me the nature of the
> credencial problem?? In order to be given a bed at an albergue or refugio
> when I walked the Camino Frances in 2005, I had to present my credencial
> from American Pilgrims on the Camino to get it stamped.? What I don't
> understand is how the restrictions on the source of the credencials in 2009
> will solve the problem of turigrinos?? Without credencials they could not
> and will not be able to use public albergues in Galicia, but couldn't use
> them in 2005 either.? Or am I missing something?? Please? enlighten me on
> this issue.
>
> ?
>
> Patricia, Upstate New York
>
>
>
> blaroli at aol.com wrote:
>
> Hello you all,
> >From 2009 on the only credentials that will be recognized for the purpose
> of staying in the Xacobeo-sponsored albergues will be the official
> accordion-like credential issued by the Archdiocese and affiliates. Those
> pilgrims that come from,? say, Vienna, will use the Jacobsweg credential for
> the public albergues outside of Spain, but once they reach Roncesvalles, or
> Somport, they will have to get the "official" one to gain access to the
> non-private albergues in Spain.
> Of course, those pilgrims that will not be using the public albergues
> needn't worry about this or that credential.?
> You will remember that the purpose of the requirement is to stem the flood
> of pseudo-pilgrims seeking to use the public albergues that has caused so
> many problems over the last few years and deprived so many bona fide
> pilgrims of albergue facilities.
>
> Hugs!
>
> Rosina
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sil
> To: saintjames at yahoogroups.com; Gocamino
> Sent: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 6:22 am
> Subject: [saintjames] Clarity on Credentials
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> As most of you know, there has been some confusion about whether or not
> credentials issued by confraternities outside of Spain would be accpeted
> at
> the Pilgrim's Office. The CSJ has released this news from Spain:
>
> There is not any change for you or for any association outside Spain. The
> decision not to accept at the Pilgrim's Office more than the credential of
> the cathedral from 2009 refers only to Spain. And here we have written to
> all the Associations of Friends of the Way and other institutions who have
> edited their own badge.
> The main reason is to ensure that adequate information is made of a sense
> of
> pilgrimage of Christian pilgrimage to the Tomb of the Apostle and the
> conditions for receiving the "Compostela". Therefore, as you continue the
> process until now, trying, as far as possible that the pilgrims received
> the
> blessing of the pilgrims at the start of his pilgrimage.
> I hope this will clarify the issue definitively.
> Sil
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