[Gocamino] A pilgrim; English Way
Mary V. Wallis
mvwallis at pathcom.ca
Sun Sep 16 10:17:09 PDT 2007
more to come - this was the first one you sent Rosina; the second is coming.
Michael - let me know you got this. Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: To: <>; <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [Gocamino] 2006 stats
> Hello you all,
> For those of you who have asked: The pilgrims' office does not, and
> cannot, provide satistical information directly to whose who may ask for
> it. However, if you are an active member of the Archicofradia and do
> pieces of work for them, its Sociology Department may give you the
> information in advance of its publication in the Archocofradia' quaterly
> magazine "Compostela". The year-end edition being readied now contains
> every bit of information that I got and then some.
> I do not know why the official site of the Archdiocese has ceased to make
> the figures available on their website. I suspect that this is owing to
> the huge cuts in subsidies to religious organizations that the new
> Zapatero Socialist government in Spain has put into effect. I do know
> that the pilgrims' office is terribly shorthanded and pretty much
> dependent on volunteers.
> Here in Austria, believe it or not, the citizens pay a church tax!. About
> 80% of Austrians are Roman Catholic and the rest are Lutherans and they do
> not seem to mind paying the tax which has been periodically put to a
> referendum. This tax ,(unthinkable in the U.S.), probably accounts for the
> fantastic shape of the churches, monasteries, etc., in this country, and
> the fabulous services that they provide to Camino pilgrims.
> Furthermore, giant successful companies like Swaroski turn over a
> percentage of their profits to monasteries, etc..
> In Spain, however, religion-related organizations, like the Pilgrim's
> office, are having a pretty hard time.
> The, very aptly called, "golden-hearted Vienese" appear to have an easy
> going and affectionate relationship with their churches, which probably
> accounts for their remarkable attachment to the Camino.
> At present, there is an exhibition (with music, natch!) of Camino
> photographs and paintings. It is amazing to me how differently we see the
> same things. Fortunately, there is a book of the exhibition and after I
> get home (Bah, humbug!) to New York next Sunday I'll see how I can send
> copies of the most interesting works to our techie guru, Dave, for
> possible posting here.
> They have also published, among many others, an absolutely delightful
> Camino book called "Im Zeichen der Muschel . Geschenkbuch zum Jakobsweg"
> (In th sigtn of the shell. The gift of the Camino). The book has a cut
> through the pages in the shape of a shell and a bronze shell inside the
> cut out!. While it is, of course, in German, it does have a lot of
> beautiful, and different illustrations.
>
> I'll send the rest of the information about 2006 pilgrims that you have
> asked for before I leave.
>
> Big hug!
>
> Rosina
> _______________________________________________
> Gocamino mailing list
> Gocamino at oakapple.net
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>
more to come - this was the first one you sent Rosina; the second is coming.
Michael - let me know you got this. Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: To: <>; <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [Gocamino] 2006 stats
> Hello you all,
> For those of you who have asked: The pilgrims' office does not, and
> cannot, provide satistical information directly to whose who may ask for
> it. However, if you are an active member of the Archicofradia and do
> pieces of work for them, its Sociology Department may give you the
> information in advance of its publication in the Archocofradia' quaterly
> magazine "Compostela". The year-end edition being readied now contains
> every bit of information that I got and then some.
> I do not know why the official site of the Archdiocese has ceased to make
> the figures available on their website. I suspect that this is owing to
> the huge cuts in subsidies to religious organizations that the new
> Zapatero Socialist government in Spain has put into effect. I do know
> that the pilgrims' office is terribly shorthanded and pretty much
> dependent on volunteers.
> Here in Austria, believe it or not, the citizens pay a church tax!. About
> 80% of Austrians are Roman Catholic and the rest are Lutherans and they do
> not seem to mind paying the tax which has been periodically put to a
> referendum. This tax ,(unthinkable in the U.S.), probably accounts for the
> fantastic shape of the churches, monasteries, etc., in this country, and
> the fabulous services that they provide to Camino pilgrims.
> Furthermore, giant successful companies like Swaroski turn over a
> percentage of their profits to monasteries, etc..
> In Spain, however, religion-related organizations, like the Pilgrim's
> office, are having a pretty hard time.
> The, very aptly called, "golden-hearted Vienese" appear to have an easy
> going and affectionate relationship with their churches, which probably
> accounts for their remarkable attachment to the Camino.
> At present, there is an exhibition (with music, natch!) of Camino
> photographs and paintings. It is amazing to me how differently we see the
> same things. Fortunately, there is a book of the exhibition and after I
> get home (Bah, humbug!) to New York next Sunday I'll see how I can send
> copies of the most interesting works to our techie guru, Dave, for
> possible posting here.
> They have also published, among many others, an absolutely delightful
> Camino book called "Im Zeichen der Muschel . Geschenkbuch zum Jakobsweg"
> (In th sigtn of the shell. The gift of the Camino). The book has a cut
> through the pages in the shape of a shell and a bronze shell inside the
> cut out!. While it is, of course, in German, it does have a lot of
> beautiful, and different illustrations.
>
> I'll send the rest of the information about 2006 pilgrims that you have
> asked for before I leave.
>
> Big hug!
>
> Rosina
> _______________________________________________
> Gocamino mailing list
> Gocamino at oakapple.net
> http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/gocamino
>
more to come - this was the first one you sent Rosina; the second is coming.
Michael - let me know you got this. Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: To: <>; <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [Gocamino] 2006 stats
> Hello you all,
> For those of you who have asked: The pilgrims' office does not, and
> cannot, provide satistical information directly to whose who may ask for
> it. However, if you are an active member of the Archicofradia and do
> pieces of work for them, its Sociology Department may give you the
> information in advance of its publication in the Archocofradia' quaterly
> magazine "Compostela". The year-end edition being readied now contains
> every bit of information that I got and then some.
> I do not know why the official site of the Archdiocese has ceased to make
> the figures available on their website. I suspect that this is owing to
> the huge cuts in subsidies to religious organizations that the new
> Zapatero Socialist government in Spain has put into effect. I do know
> that the pilgrims' office is terribly shorthanded and pretty much
> dependent on volunteers.
> Here in Austria, believe it or not, the citizens pay a church tax!. About
> 80% of Austrians are Roman Catholic and the rest are Lutherans and they do
> not seem to mind paying the tax which has been periodically put to a
> referendum. This tax ,(unthinkable in the U.S.), probably accounts for the
> fantastic shape of the churches, monasteries, etc., in this country, and
> the fabulous services that they provide to Camino pilgrims.
> Furthermore, giant successful companies like Swaroski turn over a
> percentage of their profits to monasteries, etc..
> In Spain, however, religion-related organizations, like the Pilgrim's
> office, are having a pretty hard time.
> The, very aptly called, "golden-hearted Vienese" appear to have an easy
> going and affectionate relationship with their churches, which probably
> accounts for their remarkable attachment to the Camino.
> At present, there is an exhibition (with music, natch!) of Camino
> photographs and paintings. It is amazing to me how differently we see the
> same things. Fortunately, there is a book of the exhibition and after I
> get home (Bah, humbug!) to New York next Sunday I'll see how I can send
> copies of the most interesting works to our techie guru, Dave, for
> possible posting here.
> They have also published, among many others, an absolutely delightful
> Camino book called "Im Zeichen der Muschel . Geschenkbuch zum Jakobsweg"
> (In th sigtn of the shell. The gift of the Camino). The book has a cut
> through the pages in the shape of a shell and a bronze shell inside the
> cut out!. While it is, of course, in German, it does have a lot of
> beautiful, and different illustrations.
>
> I'll send the rest of the information about 2006 pilgrims that you have
> asked for before I leave.
>
> Big hug!
>
> Rosina
> _______________________________________________
> Gocamino mailing list
> Gocamino at oakapple.net
> http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/gocamino
>
more to come - this was the first one you sent Rosina; the second is coming.
Michael - let me know you got this. Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: To: <>; <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [Gocamino] 2006 stats
> Hello you all,
> For those of you who have asked: The pilgrims' office does not, and
> cannot, provide satistical information directly to whose who may ask for
> it. However, if you are an active member of the Archicofradia and do
> pieces of work for them, its Sociology Department may give you the
> information in advance of its publication in the Archocofradia' quaterly
> magazine "Compostela". The year-end edition being readied now contains
> every bit of information that I got and then some.
> I do not know why the official site of the Archdiocese has ceased to make
> the figures available on their website. I suspect that this is owing to
> the huge cuts in subsidies to religious organizations that the new
> Zapatero Socialist government in Spain has put into effect. I do know
> that the pilgrims' office is terribly shorthanded and pretty much
> dependent on volunteers.
> Here in Austria, believe it or not, the citizens pay a church tax!. About
> 80% of Austrians are Roman Catholic and the rest are Lutherans and they do
> not seem to mind paying the tax which has been periodically put to a
> referendum. This tax ,(unthinkable in the U.S.), probably accounts for the
> fantastic shape of the churches, monasteries, etc., in this country, and
> the fabulous services that they provide to Camino pilgrims.
> Furthermore, giant successful companies like Swaroski turn over a
> percentage of their profits to monasteries, etc..
> In Spain, however, religion-related organizations, like the Pilgrim's
> office, are having a pretty hard time.
> The, very aptly called, "golden-hearted Vienese" appear to have an easy
> going and affectionate relationship with their churches, which probably
> accounts for their remarkable attachment to the Camino.
> At present, there is an exhibition (with music, natch!) of Camino
> photographs and paintings. It is amazing to me how differently we see the
> same things. Fortunately, there is a book of the exhibition and after I
> get home (Bah, humbug!) to New York next Sunday I'll see how I can send
> copies of the most interesting works to our techie guru, Dave, for
> possible posting here.
> They have also published, among many others, an absolutely delightful
> Camino book called "Im Zeichen der Muschel . Geschenkbuch zum Jakobsweg"
> (In th sigtn of the shell. The gift of the Camino). The book has a cut
> through the pages in the shape of a shell and a bronze shell inside the
> cut out!. While it is, of course, in German, it does have a lot of
> beautiful, and different illustrations.
>
> I'll send the rest of the information about 2006 pilgrims that you have
> asked for before I leave.
>
> Big hug!
>
> Rosina
> _______________________________________________
> Gocamino mailing list
> Gocamino at oakapple.net
> http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/gocamino
>
more to come - this was the first one you sent Rosina; the second is coming.
Michael - let me know you got this. Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: To: <>; <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [Gocamino] 2006 stats
> Hello you all,
> For those of you who have asked: The pilgrims' office does not, and
> cannot, provide satistical information directly to whose who may ask for
> it. However, if you are an active member of the Archicofradia and do
> pieces of work for them, its Sociology Department may give you the
> information in advance of its publication in the Archocofradia' quaterly
> magazine "Compostela". The year-end edition being readied now contains
> every bit of information that I got and then some.
> I do not know why the official site of the Archdiocese has ceased to make
> the figures available on their website. I suspect that this is owing to
> the huge cuts in subsidies to religious organizations that the new
> Zapatero Socialist government in Spain has put into effect. I do know
> that the pilgrims' office is terribly shorthanded and pretty much
> dependent on volunteers.
> Here in Austria, believe it or not, the citizens pay a church tax!. About
> 80% of Austrians are Roman Catholic and the rest are Lutherans and they do
> not seem to mind paying the tax which has been periodically put to a
> referendum. This tax ,(unthinkable in the U.S.), probably accounts for the
> fantastic shape of the churches, monasteries, etc., in this country, and
> the fabulous services that they provide to Camino pilgrims.
> Furthermore, giant successful companies like Swaroski turn over a
> percentage of their profits to monasteries, etc..
> In Spain, however, religion-related organizations, like the Pilgrim's
> office, are having a pretty hard time.
> The, very aptly called, "golden-hearted Vienese" appear to have an easy
> going and affectionate relationship with their churches, which probably
> accounts for their remarkable attachment to the Camino.
> At present, there is an exhibition (with music, natch!) of Camino
> photographs and paintings. It is amazing to me how differently we see the
> same things. Fortunately, there is a book of the exhibition and after I
> get home (Bah, humbug!) to New York next Sunday I'll see how I can send
> copies of the most interesting works to our techie guru, Dave, for
> possible posting here.
> They have also published, among many others, an absolutely delightful
> Camino book called "Im Zeichen der Muschel . Geschenkbuch zum Jakobsweg"
> (In th sigtn of the shell. The gift of the Camino). The book has a cut
> through the pages in the shape of a shell and a bronze shell inside the
> cut out!. While it is, of course, in German, it does have a lot of
> beautiful, and different illustrations.
>
> I'll send the rest of the information about 2006 pilgrims that you have
> asked for before I leave.
>
> Big hug!
>
> Rosina
> _______________________________________________
> Gocamino mailing list
> Gocamino at oakapple.net
> http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/gocamino
>
more to come - this was the first one you sent Rosina; the second is coming.
Michael - let me know you got this. Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: To: <>; <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [Gocamino] 2006 stats
> Hello you all,
> For those of you who have asked: The pilgrims' office does not, and
> cannot, provide satistical information directly to whose who may ask for
> it. However, if you are an active member of the Archicofradia and do
> pieces of work for them, its Sociology Department may give you the
> information in advance of its publication in the Archocofradia' quaterly
> magazine "Compostela". The year-end edition being readied now contains
> every bit of information that I got and then some.
> I do not know why the official site of the Archdiocese has ceased to make
> the figures available on their website. I suspect that this is owing to
> the huge cuts in subsidies to religious organizations that the new
> Zapatero Socialist government in Spain has put into effect. I do know
> that the pilgrims' office is terribly shorthanded and pretty much
> dependent on volunteers.
> Here in Austria, believe it or not, the citizens pay a church tax!. About
> 80% of Austrians are Roman Catholic and the rest are Lutherans and they do
> not seem to mind paying the tax which has been periodically put to a
> referendum. This tax ,(unthinkable in the U.S.), probably accounts for the
> fantastic shape of the churches, monasteries, etc., in this country, and
> the fabulous services that they provide to Camino pilgrims.
> Furthermore, giant successful companies like Swaroski turn over a
> percentage of their profits to monasteries, etc..
> In Spain, however, religion-related organizations, like the Pilgrim's
> office, are having a pretty hard time.
> The, very aptly called, "golden-hearted Vienese" appear to have an easy
> going and affectionate relationship with their churches, which probably
> accounts for their remarkable attachment to the Camino.
> At present, there is an exhibition (with music, natch!) of Camino
> photographs and paintings. It is amazing to me how differently we see the
> same things. Fortunately, there is a book of the exhibition and after I
> get home (Bah, humbug!) to New York next Sunday I'll see how I can send
> copies of the most interesting works to our techie guru, Dave, for
> possible posting here.
> They have also published, among many others, an absolutely delightful
> Camino book called "Im Zeichen der Muschel . Geschenkbuch zum Jakobsweg"
> (In th sigtn of the shell. The gift of the Camino). The book has a cut
> through the pages in the shape of a shell and a bronze shell inside the
> cut out!. While it is, of course, in German, it does have a lot of
> beautiful, and different illustrations.
>
> I'll send the rest of the information about 2006 pilgrims that you have
> asked for before I leave.
>
> Big hug!
>
> Rosina
> _______________________________________________
> Gocamino mailing list
> Gocamino at oakapple.net
> http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/gocamino
>
more to come - this was the first one you sent Rosina; the second is coming.
Michael - let me know you got this. Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: To: <>; <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [Gocamino] 2006 stats
> Hello you all,
> For those of you who have asked: The pilgrims' office does not, and
> cannot, provide satistical information directly to whose who may ask for
> it. However, if you are an active member of the Archicofradia and do
> pieces of work for them, its Sociology Department may give you the
> information in advance of its publication in the Archocofradia' quaterly
> magazine "Compostela". The year-end edition being readied now contains
> every bit of information that I got and then some.
> I do not know why the official site of the Archdiocese has ceased to make
> the figures available on their website. I suspect that this is owing to
> the huge cuts in subsidies to religious organizations that the new
> Zapatero Socialist government in Spain has put into effect. I do know
> that the pilgrims' office is terribly shorthanded and pretty much
> dependent on volunteers.
> Here in Austria, believe it or not, the citizens pay a church tax!. About
> 80% of Austrians are Roman Catholic and the rest are Lutherans and they do
> not seem to mind paying the tax which has been periodically put to a
> referendum. This tax ,(unthinkable in the U.S.), probably accounts for the
> fantastic shape of the churches, monasteries, etc., in this country, and
> the fabulous services that they provide to Camino pilgrims.
> Furthermore, giant successful companies like Swaroski turn over a
> percentage of their profits to monasteries, etc..
> In Spain, however, religion-related organizations, like the Pilgrim's
> office, are having a pretty hard time.
> The, very aptly called, "golden-hearted Vienese" appear to have an easy
> going and affectionate relationship with their churches, which probably
> accounts for their remarkable attachment to the Camino.
> At present, there is an exhibition (with music, natch!) of Camino
> photographs and paintings. It is amazing to me how differently we see the
> same things. Fortunately, there is a book of the exhibition and after I
> get home (Bah, humbug!) to New York next Sunday I'll see how I can send
> copies of the most interesting works to our techie guru, Dave, for
> possible posting here.
> They have also published, among many others, an absolutely delightful
> Camino book called "Im Zeichen der Muschel . Geschenkbuch zum Jakobsweg"
> (In th sigtn of the shell. The gift of the Camino). The book has a cut
> through the pages in the shape of a shell and a bronze shell inside the
> cut out!. While it is, of course, in German, it does have a lot of
> beautiful, and different illustrations.
>
> I'll send the rest of the information about 2006 pilgrims that you have
> asked for before I leave.
>
> Big hug!
>
> Rosina
> _______________________________________________
> Gocamino mailing list
> Gocamino at oakapple.net
> http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/gocamino
>
----- Original Message -----
From: <blaroli at aol.com>
To: <mbarham1975 at yahoo.com>; <GOCAMINO at oakapple.net>;
<sainjames at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] A pilgrim; English Way
> Hi Michael,
> I remember sending the data from Vienna last January.? Perhaps someone
> here kept them, or else they may be found on the archives (I don't know
> how to gain access...... does anyone?)
> Hugs,
> Rosina
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Barham <mbarham1975 at yahoo.com>
> To: blaroli at aol.com; Gocamino at oakapple.net; saintjames at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Acaciopaz at yahoo.com.br
> Sent: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 3:31 am
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] A pilgrim; English Way
>
>
>
> hi folks,
>
> does anyone have the statistics from the 2006 year -
> on peregrinos, their homes and starting locations?
>
> peace,
> Michael
>
>
> --- blaroli at aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
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