St. James Matamoros

[Xosé Manuel Alvariño]

Santiago matamoros in Iberia, Santiago mataindios in the Americas, and then 
Santiago mataespañoles (when invoqued by converted Amerindians figthing their 
Spanish  oppressors!) El Señor Santiago has been made to move around a lot on 
both sides of the charco!

Xosé Manuel

In a message dated 2/25/2003 8:55:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
mjdunnaTXUCOM.NET writes:

> Basically, it seems to me that there are (and always have been) two
> groups (no matter what your nationality, religion, or ethnic group):
> assimilationists (for us to get along we should all have *basically* the
> same (although not necessarily identical) beliefs / language / culture /
> religion) and pluralists (I'm okay, you're okay, let's all be okay,
> separately together). The last young man who spoke and said "it's hard,
> but we have to recognize that Europeans have their own values" is a
> pluralist; the "we've been waiting for 500 years" guy is an
> assimilationist. Your comfort level with either group is your own
> value/belief system.
> 
> As something to think about however: the Christians' battles(with
> Santiago Matamoros at their lead) are collectively called the
> REconquista--in other words, at some point (most notably 711, and in
> several successive waves after that) the Muslims *conquered* the
> (Christian) Goths by FORCE. The loss of Granada in 1492 was actually the
> culmination of a long, slow, steady retaking of the peninsula whether by
> actual battle, or by decline and degeneration by the Muslims. It's not
> like the entire peninsula was Muslim (and only Muslim) for 780 years and
> suddenly "poof!" it's gone. History is never quite so black and white as
> what it appears (or sounds like)in a seven minute media clip.
> 
> One last thought before I send this and set the list aflame (sorry
> Linda, but I do love to occasionally play devil's advocate):  How many
> students do you suppose study Spanish peninsular history with the
> romantic notion of the "Moors" and never realize that Moors = Muslims?
> While I was student teaching last semester I'd say it ran about 75-85%.
> 
> Maryjane
> 
> >I did go back to Silvia Poggioli's piece, I was a bit chilled
> >by the comment made by a young Arab interviewed by Poggioli
> >about the building of a mosque that "we have been waiting for
> >this moment for 500 years" .
> >
> >Maura
> >
> 

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