Jim There is one place, I know, in Belgium, Beauraing, in the Ardennes near the French border. This place is still a pilgrimplace, dedicated to Maria, who once appeared there. This is all I know. Jan en Erna Brilleman e-mail: janathedinghsweert.org ernaathedinghsweert.org homepage: http://home.wanadoo.nl/janbrilleman