[Gocamino] Starting, Walking, Stamps Etc

Sat Apr 27 08:51:28 PDT 2013

Just a quick note.  On my Camino, I realized I would not be able to finish 
when I was just after Burgos due to some serious foot pain (not blisters), 
but I wanted desperately to see Santiago before I left Spain. I knew had 
walked more than 100 km, but not the last 100 km, so I took a bus to 
Santiago and found the pilgrim's office and said what had happened. As 
expected, I wasn't able to get the Compostela, but the man behind the desk 
was kind enough to suggest leaving my credencial "open" so that if I were to 
return (and I will!) I could use the same passport and then present it at 
that time.  I thought that was lovely of him.

Linda in CO

-----Original Message----- 
From: Howard Mendes
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:33 AM
To: sillydoll at gmail.com ; tim at errecaldia.com
Cc: gocamino at oakapple.net
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] Starting, Walking, Stamps Etc

Sil- You have a talent for exaggeration.  Where is the long list you refer 
to?  All I offered was a brief observation. Rather than blowing it out of 
proportion, why don't you simply state your own anecdotal experiences and be 
done with it.

If I had an unpleasant experience, believe me, I am not haunted by it 
("terribly hurt")as you seem to think. If you had a different reception, 
hooray for you! Stop taking me to task for my willingness to express my 
personal observation to Jeff and quit lecturing me on the subject.  It is 
not about me, so stop using my comment to Jeff to vent your hostility toward 
me..  No wonder you call yourself "Silly".

Howard

-----Original Message-----
From: Sil <sillydoll at gmail.com>
To: Tim <tim at errecaldia.com>
Cc: gocamino <gocamino at oakapple.net>
Sent: Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:54 am
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] Starting, Walking, Stamps Etc

Oh dear, Howard.  To express such a long list of negative and angry
feelings about the people in the pilgrims office shows that you must have
been terribly hurt by your humiliating and demeaning experience there. I
feel really sorry for you and hope that one day you can forgive and put it
behind you.  I have truly had a warm welcome from the girls and the guys in
the office each time I have arrived there as have my many different
companions on the Camino over the past 11 years.

Jim, in 2011, two women who started with me from St Jean Pied de Port
started battling when we got to Morgade, about 14km out of Sarria. Chris
had a swollen foot and shin splint and Judy stayed with her until Chris
couldn't walk any further.  They got a taxi to Portomarin and went to see a
doctor there.

The following day the swelling was down and the constant ice and hot
applications had helped the shin splint as well.  As they were about to
leave with us, a Korean pilgrim asked Chris (a doctor herself) to have a
look at her ankle.  Chris decided that she should have it seen to but the
Korean couldn't speak Spanish so Chris and Judy went with her to the
doctor's rooms and stayed with her until she was settled into a room in the
town.  By then it was too late to start walking to Palas de Rei so she got
a taxi 15km down the road and started walking from there.

When Chris and Judy arrived at the Pilgrim's Office they told the man
behind the desk that they could not claim the Compostela because they had
not walked the whole distance from Sarria.  The man checked their
credenciales and seeing that they had started in St Jean asked why they
hadn't walked the whole way from Sarria.  After listening to their story he
gave them both a Compostela.  This meant the world to them, especially
Judy, as she was walking in memory of her 19 year-old son who had passed
away a year before.

Have a look at this website for more about the Amigos Welcome Service run
by the Pilgrims' Office.  Last year 26 volunteers took part and welcomed
over 100 000 at the offices.http://johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com/

On 27 April 2013 14:22, Tim <tim at errecaldia.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>      I feel that it is necessary to add a little to the post below.  The
> usual starting point, if there is one, for the Camino Frances is not
> Roncevalles.  Roncevalles is not, and never has been, anything other
> than a stop over, a very important stopover but still just that.  It is
> a tiny hamlet with virtually no transport links other than minibuses and
> a once a day bus link to Pamplona.  In other words to start from
> Roncevalles you first have to get there and the majority of pilgrims
> both past and present get there on foot.
> Tim Proctor
>
> On 26/04/13 21:25, E. O. Pederson wrote:
> > Kinsale, Ireland.  26 April
> >
> > You do not indicate how much time you plan to spend walking (it is a
> walk not a hike ala the AT or PCT) , but doing a part of the Camino is a
> common activity. Credencials are easy to obtain but necessary to stay in
> many of the various facilities in Spain. There are numerous "turgrinos" 
> who
> simply use the Camino with its facilities for a walking holiday, usually
> selecting one or another scenic stretch for a week or fortnight.
> >
> > Some European pilgrims divide the walk over periods of two or more
> years, walking a week or more each year until final arrival in Santiago.
> Some Belgians, Dutch, Germans (and undoubtedly other nationals) start from
> home and walk 2000 or more kms over the course of several years, while
> others start at the usual starting point of the Camino Frances at
> Roncesvalles, many of them dividing their Spanish Camino walk into 3 
> years,
> the first from Roncesvalles to Burgos, the second  to Leon or Astorga and
> the final year from that point to Santiago. In other words, doing only a
> part of the Camino in any one year is not unusual.
> >
> > In order to receive the Compostela, however, one must walk the final
> 100kms into the city on the Camino Frances or one of several other routes
> like the Camino Ingles from Ferrol which allow at least that distance.
> Stamps, in principle two per day on that final stretch, must be shown to
> the Pilgrim Office to meet the requirement. Completing an equivalent
> distance elsewhere on the Camino and bussing the final part does not work,
> and unless one walks the final 100 kms to the cathedral in Galicia, one
> will not be awarded the Compostela. ( That ignores another class of
> turgrinos, those who ride tour busses most of the way, but walk just far
> enough to get two stamps each day from their starting point in Sarria, but
> as you sound to be a real walker, I doubt the option will be attractive. 
> It
> is mostly older Spaniards along with some Japanese and Koreans who have
> been observed doing it.)
> >
> > If this is a duplicate, please forgive me as I am using an unfamiliar
> computer.
> >
> > E.. O. PEDERSON
> > Fairfax, VA
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:58:25 -0400
> >> From: jpcrim1974 at gmail.com
> >> To: gocamino at oakapple.net
> >> Subject: [Gocamino] Starting, Walking, Stamps Etc
> >>
> >> My wife and I are newlyweds (3 months), and while we were dating we
> >> began walking. hiking, and biking. Next month we are going to do a 
> >> short
> >> section hike of the Appalachian Trail, and since we realized that the
> >> route we drive to go visit her family in PA roughly parallels the AT, 
> >> we
> >> are also planning to do some day hikes en route to and from this 
> >> summer.
> >>
> >> We are also planning to take a vacation next year. She's been to Europe
> >> many times, and I never have. Tentatively we are talking about making
> >> the Camino part of that.  We cannot plan our trip around the entire
> >> Camino Frances. But instead of walking only the last 100km from Sarria
> >> to Santiago, I was wondering about doing a hybrid thing like we are
> >> doing on the AT. If we were to do some short day hikes on the earlier
> >> sections and then take the bus or train to Sarria and walk to Santiago:
> >> That would certainly get us the Compostella as we would have walked
> >> 100km. My question is: would it be inappropriate to collect stamps in
> >> our credentials for those earlier sections since they will be separated
> >> from the last 100km by vehicle travel?
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