[Gocamino] The Way the movie in Toronto.and in the U.S.A. at last!

Tue Oct 11 06:34:40 PDT 2011

Ginn - If Rosina was "burned", she deserved a strong reprimand for her offensive comments.  I agree with you that this is about basic human behavior, not religion. What you consider name calling, I consider labeling perversity for what it is.   You are correct in advocating for diversity, not perversity. 

Anyone who has the gall to talk about "90% Christian population" and "religious foundations of the U. S. of A." does not merit your support in the expression of diverse opinions here.  I communicated my scorn quite well, and you should join me, if you value diversity as you say you do.

Howard

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From: Virginia Pulver <vjpulver at gmail.com>
To: Philippe pip <pips124 at hotmail.com>
Cc: hme347 <hme347 at aol.com>; blaroli <blaroli at aol.com>; gocamino <gocamino at oakapple.net>; saintjames <saintjames at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 5:06 am
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] The Way the movie in Toronto.and in the U.S.A. at last!

    Wow! I am doing my best to realize that sometimes people react    rather than respond to things. I wonder if there is some misplaced    anger and aggression flaring up.  I am am sorry Rosina was burned by    these unkind remarks. 

    This is a diverse group and each of us is at a different place on    our lifelong Camino. I would hope that we can reach out and help one    another rather than resorting to angry name-calling and name    calling.  (Words like "zealot," "cohorts," "diatribe," etc. do not    lead to better communication.  

    This isn't about religion, it is about basic human behavior. 

    "Ginn"
    In Rainy SC
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    On 10/11/2011 6:35 AM, Philippe pip wrote:    

Gosh ! " zealots like you " " your cohorts " " pro Christian diatribe " " your narrow minded, anti American rantings " is this a Camino website ? Philippe 
 > To: blaroli at aol.com; GoCamino at oakapple.net; saintjames at yahoo.com

From: hme347 at aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:59:48 -0400
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] The Way the movie in Toronto.and in the U.S.A. at	last!

Excuse me, Rosina!  Where do you get YOUR political correctness?  Who are the dictators you refer to? Who is trying to "eradicate the religious foundations of these U.S. of A."?  The Roberts Supreme Court? Justices Scalia, Alito and Thomas?  

Perhaps zealots like you are not happy with movie exhibitors and TV producers who are exercising their prerogatives giving the public what they want to see, not religious screes and propaganda. (I am NOT referring to "The Way" since I have not seen the film and I have no idea why the NY Times did not give the names of the theaters where it can be seen.  I doubt whether there was anything sinister going on as you imply.  Just an editorial oversight.) 

How many of the "90% Christian population" (sic) are churchgoers or actually practice their faith in any way except at Christmas?  Did you include Mormons in the 90%?  Do I detect a threat that you and your cohorts in the Tea Party, Moral Majority and other ultra right wing groups intend to rise up and do something if you are denied Christian "slanted" offerings?  I find your pro-Christian diatribe just as offensive as the pro-Moslem, anti-Christian violence now taking place in Egypt.

I think you owe us all an apology for your narrow-minded, anti American ranting which is copied below.  

As anyone in these parts can't fail to perceive, on a daily basis, the 
dictatorial so-called "political  correctness",  and a relentless determination 
to eradicate the Christian foundations of these U.S. of A.,  pretty much keeps 
movies and TV programs with what might be perceived as a Christian slant  off 
movie houses and television airings, and out of circulation.  
Nevertheless, the nearly 90% Christian population of the country will not be 
denied; not for long. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosina <blaroli at aol.com>
To: GoCamino <GoCamino at oakapple.net>; saintjames <saintjames at yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] The Way the movie in Toronto.and in the U.S.A. at last!

As anyone in these parts can't fail to perceive, on a daily basis, the 
dictatorial so-called "political  correctness",  and a relentless determination 
to eradicate the Christian foundations of these U.S. of A.,  pretty much keeps 
movies and TV programs with what might be perceived as a Christian slant  off 
movie houses and television airings, and out of circulation.  
Nevertheless, the nearly 90% Christian population of the country will not be 
denied; not for long. 
And so,..... last Sunday the NY Times, an erstwhile responsible  newspaper sadly 
metamorphosed into the clarion of  political merchantability, published a tiny 
article about the Martin Sheen's movie "The Way"  that will finally be released 
commercially here.  Not surprisingly, the newspaper doesn't disclose the  
theatres where the movie will be shown.  The "article" merely mentions that the 
movie will "open on Friday nationwide".
 Because these listservs, protectively, preclude attachments, a verbatim 
reproduction of the small piece reads:

"One thing you quickly realize when you sit to watch "The Way": Martin Sheen is 
a very compelling actor. Another thing you realize more slowly as the film goes 
along: His oldest son, Emilio Estevez, is a very sensitive director. 
Mr. Estevez is both writer and director of this film, and also turns up in a 
small role, but he gives the spotlight to his father, who makes quite a lot out 
of a low-key story that could easily have degenerated into mush.  Mr. Sheen 
plays an ophthalmologist named Tom  whose only son, Daniel (Mr. Estevez) dies in 
severe weather in the Pyrenees while trying to walk the Way of Saint James (also 
known as the Camino de Santiago), a pilgrimage of hundreds of miles that ends in 
northwest Spain at a Cathedral where the Apostle James is said to be buried.
Tom goes to retrieve his son's body and ends up walking the pilgrimage himself, 
scattering Daniel's ashes along the way.  Mr Sheen gives a lovely performance as 
the no-nonsense doctor. and he gets wonderful support from actors playing fellow 
travelers who befriend Tom:  Yorick van Wageningen as a verbose Dutchman, 
Deborah Kara Lingen as an acid-tongued woman trying to quit smoking, and James 
Nesbitt as an Irishman  with writer's block.
 This is not an "inspirational" film in the usual, syrupy sense; none of these 
people are overtly finding God on this trek. The beauty of this movie, in fact, 
is that Mr Estevez does not make explicit what any of them find (sic) beyond 
friendship. He lets these four fine actors convey that true personal 
transformations are not announced with fanfare, but happen internally."

Blessed and fortunate are we, Santiago pilgrims, who have lived the  truth of 
the last sentence and know that the end of the Camino pilgrimage at the Santiago 
Cathedral is the beginning revealed.

Hugs!

Rosina

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From: Sue Kenney <kenneysue at gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 8:39 pm
Subject: [Gocamino] The Way the movie in Toronto

Tomorrow, October 11 The Way the movie is screening in Toronto at the AMC at
undas and Yonge. I'll be there. Here's the link.
ttps://globerecognition.net/offers/view/505

usan Regan Kenney
nspirational Speaker. Coach. Pilgrim.
uthor of Canadian best selling book My Camino
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