[Gocamino] Gocamino Digest, Vol 83, Issue 5
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> Is there any guide to do the camino on bike, written in English?
> Thank you for the suggestions.
> J.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:31:12 +0100
> From: Johnnie Walker <johnniewalker-santiago at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
> To: santiagobis <santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>, <gocamino at oakapple.net>
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> This has been a fascinating discussion. The root of the issue is
> the wording of
> the Compostela which is highly prized by many pilgrims particularly
> the Spanish.
> To remind ourselves a translation of the Latin:
>
> "The Chapter of this Holy Apostolic Metropolitan Cathedral of St.
> James,
> custodian of the seal of St. James' Altar, to all faithful and
> pilgrims who come
> from everywhere over the world as an act of devotion, under vow or
> promise to
> the Apostle's Tomb, our Patron and Protector of Spain, witnesses in
> the sight of
> all who read this document, that: Mr???????has visited devoutly
> this Sacred
> Church in a religious sense (pietatis causa).
>
>
>
>
> Witness whereof I hand this document over to him, authenticated by
> the seal of
> this Sacred Church.
> Given in St. James de Compostela on the (day)??(month)??A.D. ???
>
>
>
>
> Chapter Secretary"
> It is the interpretation of what might qualify as pietatis causa
> which has led
> to there being two boxes - Religious and Religious/Other. In the
> Pilgrims Office
> if someone ticks the Non Religious box they will be asked if they
> are sure they
> didn't walk for spiritual reasons such as a promise - the whole
> concept of the
> Promesa lies deep in Spanish culture. I wrote about this sometime
> ago here:
>
> http://johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com/2010/09/where-faith-and-
> doubt-unite.html
>
> My conclusion is that the Religious/Other box is a bit of a fudge
> but it is well
> intended so that people who cannot bring themselves to say they
> walked for
> Religious reasons have another option.
>
> Best wishes
>
> John
>
>
> www.johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com
> From: dianarautenbach at yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:06:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We first started walking the camino in 2006 when for "religious
> reasons" was
> more the order of the day. With our last walk in 2011 we found
> people to be
> walking for reasons such as: I'm out of a job and don't know which
> way to turn,
> maybe walking will clear my mind and give me some ideas of what to
> do next //
> I'm bored stiff and need something new to occupy me // I'm all for
> adventure,
> new cultures, people, sightseeing // and this might be a nice,
> cheap holiday
> etc. We also found that there were very, very few religious people
> (nuns,
> priests etc) on our 2011 walk.
>
> --- On Thu, 10/6/11, Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com, "Richard Ferguson"
> <richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Way back in the Dark Ages (2002) when I first did it, the choices
> were:
> ?Religious? or ?Spiritual and other reasons?. The difference is, to
> me,
> enormous.
>
> (Richard: I saw that little wink....)
> --
> Lynne
> lgedit at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Richard Ferguson <richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
> Reply-To: <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:17:49 -0600
> To: Santiagobis Camino <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark said:
>
> I do wonder, what is the difference between "Religious and Other
> Reasons" and
> "Religious". I would think Religious is Religious. Just wondering.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> I remember when I was on Camino a young man asked me if I was
> walking for
> religious reasons or for the adventure, and I said
> "both" (actually "los dos").
> That still seems to me the right answer, in terms of what my
> intention was.
>
> However, the most important thing that I got out of my pilgrimage
> was not
> related to adventure or religion. ;-)
>
> Richard
>
> Sculptures in copper and other metals
> www.fergusonsculpture.com
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:01:26 +0100
> From: Johnnie Walker <johnniewalker-santiago at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
> To: santiagobis <santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>, <gocamino at oakapple.net>
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>
> This has been a fascinating discussion. The root of the issue is
> the wording of
> the Compostela which is highly prized by many pilgrims particularly
> the Spanish.
> To remind ourselves a translation of the Latin:
>
> "The Chapter of this Holy Apostolic Metropolitan Cathedral of St.
> James,
> custodian of the seal of St. James' Altar, to all faithful and
> pilgrims who come
> from everywhere over the world as an act of devotion, under vow or
> promise to
> the Apostle's Tomb, our Patron and Protector of Spain, witnesses in
> the sight of
> all who read this document, that: Mr???????has visited devoutly
> this Sacred
> Church in a religious sense (pietatis causa).
>
>
> Witness whereof I hand this document over to him, authenticated by
> the seal of
> this Sacred Church.
> Given in St. James de Compostela on the (day)??(month)??A.D. ???
>
>
>
>
> Chapter Secretary"
> It is the interpretation of what might qualify as pietatis causa
> which has led
> to there being two boxes - Religious and Religious/Other. In the
> Pilgrims Office
> if someone ticks the Non Religious box they will be asked if they
> are sure they
> didn't walk for spiritual reasons such as a promise - the whole
> concept of the
> Promesa lies deep in Spanish culture. I wrote about this sometime
> ago here:
>
> http://johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com/2010/09/where-faith-and-
> doubt-unite.html
>
> My conclusion is that the Religious/Other box is a bit of a fudge
> but it is well
> intended so that people who cannot bring themselves to say they
> walked for
> Religious reasons have another option.
>
> Best wishes
>
> John
>
>
> www.johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com
> From: dianarautenbach at yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:06:06 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We first started walking the camino in 2006 when for "religious
> reasons" was
> more the order of the day. With our last walk in 2011 we found
> people to be
> walking for reasons such as: I'm out of a job and don't know which
> way to turn,
> maybe walking will clear my mind and give me some ideas of what to
> do next //
> I'm bored stiff and need something new to occupy me // I'm all for
> adventure,
> new cultures, people, sightseeing // and this might be a nice,
> cheap holiday
> etc. We also found that there were very, very few religious people
> (nuns,
> priests etc) on our 2011 walk.
>
> --- On Thu, 10/6/11, Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com, "Richard Ferguson"
> <richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
> Way back in the Dark Ages (2002) when I first did it, the choices
> were:
> ?Religious? or ?Spiritual and other reasons?. The difference is, to
> me,
> enormous.
>
> (Richard: I saw that little wink....)
> --
> Lynne
> lgedit at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Richard Ferguson <richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
> Reply-To: <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:17:49 -0600
> To: Santiagobis Camino <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark said:
>
> I do wonder, what is the difference between "Religious and Other
> Reasons" and
> "Religious". I would think Religious is Religious. Just wondering.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> I remember when I was on Camino a young man asked me if I was
> walking for
> religious reasons or for the adventure, and I said
> "both" (actually "los dos").
> That still seems to me the right answer, in terms of what my
> intention was.
>
> However, the most important thing that I got out of my pilgrimage
> was not
> related to adventure or religion. ;-)
>
> Richard
>
> Sculptures in copper and other metals
> www.fergusonsculpture.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:25:24 +0200
> From: Sil <sillydoll at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] Camino guides in English to do the camino on
> bike??
> To: patronio at aol.com
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> Taken from my new book "your Camino on foot, bicycle or horseback
> in France
> and Spain" which has a chapter for biking the Camino including the
> following:
>
> In this chapter
>
> * *
>
> *The different routes*
>
> *Which bike is best*
>
> *Panniers or trailer*
>
> *Bicycle kit*
>
> *Training*
>
> *Travelling with your bike*
>
> *Bike rental*
>
> *Road or off-road*
>
> *Guides, maps, computers*
>
> *Cycling blogs and websites*
>
> Guides
>
> *The Cycling Pilgrim on the Camino Franc?s*: John Curtin 2007.
> Advice on
> bicycles, loading, and kit, prepared by cyclists, with information
> on means
> of getting bicycles to and from Spain, and some route suggestions for
> touring bikes away from the walkers? route.
>
>
> *The Way of St James:* *Le Puy to Santiago? A cyclist?s Guide*: John
> Higginson. 1997. Covers the entire French and Spanish route.
> www.cicerone.co.uk
>
> *A Practical Guide for Pilgrims: The Road to Santiago*: Mill?n
> Bravo Lozano
> (Everest). A guide for walkers with a section for cyclists with
> stages,
> profiles and route descriptions.
>
> *3-in-One: Three Great Bike Trails ? Camino Frances, Aragones and
> Via de La
> Plata*. www.mundicamino.com *
>
> **Camino Frances: Road Cycling Guide*: In Spanish, but easy to use,
> the
> first guide path for cyclists.
>
> Mapping at 75 000 ? with GPS integration. The guide is aimed at
> both bikers
> and beginners who want to avoid the difficult sections.
>
>
> Maps: www.bikemap.net/route/139920
>
> www.esterbauer.com/ From the Pyrenees to Santiago de Compostela
>
> Jakobs-Radweg (Bike Path). The total length of the Camino de
> Santiago ? bike
> trail is 914 km. Variations and excursions are not included.
> Hope this helps!
>
> On 10 October 2011 18:12, <patronio at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there any guide to do the camino on bike, written in English?
>> Thank you
>> for the suggestions.
>> J.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gocamino-request <gocamino-request at oakapple.net>
>> To: gocamino <gocamino at oakapple.net>
>> Sent: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 12:00 pm
>> Subject: Gocamino Digest, Vol 83, Issue 4
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>> 1. Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons (Johnnie Walker)
>> 2. Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons (Johnnie Walker)
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:31:12 +0100
>> From: Johnnie Walker <johnniewalker-santiago at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>> To: santiagobis <santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>,
>> <gocamino at oakapple.net>
>> Message-ID: <DUB105-W202468883121CB53E0161C8DFE0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>>
>>
>> This has been a fascinating discussion. The root of the issue is the
>> wording of
>> the Compostela which is highly prized by many pilgrims
>> particularly the
>> Spanish.
>> To remind ourselves a translation of the Latin:
>>
>> "The Chapter of this Holy Apostolic Metropolitan Cathedral of St.
>> James,
>> custodian of the seal of St. James' Altar, to all faithful and
>> pilgrims who
>> come
>> from everywhere over the world as an act of devotion, under vow or
>> promise
>> to
>> the Apostle's Tomb, our Patron and Protector of Spain, witnesses
>> in the
>> sight of
>> all who read this document, that: Mr???????has visited devoutly
>> this Sacred
>> Church in a religious sense (pietatis causa).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Witness whereof I hand this document over to him, authenticated by
>> the seal
>> of
>> this Sacred Church.
>> Given in St. James de Compostela on the (day)??(month)??A.D. ???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chapter Secretary"
>> It is the interpretation of what might qualify as pietatis causa
>> which has
>> led
>> to there being two boxes - Religious and Religious/Other. In the
>> Pilgrims
>> Office
>> if someone ticks the Non Religious box they will be asked if they
>> are sure
>> they
>> didn't walk for spiritual reasons such as a promise - the whole
>> concept of
>> the
>> Promesa lies deep in Spanish culture. I wrote about this sometime
>> ago
>> here:
>>
>>
>> http://johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com/2010/09/where-faith-and-
>> doubt-unite.html
>>
>> My conclusion is that the Religious/Other box is a bit of a fudge
>> but it is
>> well
>> intended so that people who cannot bring themselves to say they
>> walked for
>> Religious reasons have another option.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> www.johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com
>> From: dianarautenbach at yahoo.com
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:06:06 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We first started walking the camino in 2006 when for "religious
>> reasons"
>> was
>> more the order of the day. With our last walk in 2011 we found
>> people to be
>> walking for reasons such as: I'm out of a job and don't know which
>> way to
>> turn,
>> maybe walking will clear my mind and give me some ideas of what to
>> do next
>> //
>> I'm bored stiff and need something new to occupy me // I'm all for
>> adventure,
>> new cultures, people, sightseeing // and this might be a nice, cheap
>> holiday
>> etc. We also found that there were very, very few religious people
>> (nuns,
>> priests etc) on our 2011 walk.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 10/6/11, Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com, "Richard Ferguson" <
>> richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 2:50 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Way back in the Dark Ages (2002) when I first did it, the choices
>> were:
>> ?Religious? or ?Spiritual and other reasons?. The difference is,
>> to me,
>> enormous.
>>
>> (Richard: I saw that little wink....)
>> --
>> Lynne
>> lgedit at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Richard Ferguson <richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
>> Reply-To: <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:17:49 -0600
>> To: Santiagobis Camino <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark said:
>>
>> I do wonder, what is the difference between "Religious and Other
>> Reasons"
>> and
>> "Religious". I would think Religious is Religious. Just wondering.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I remember when I was on Camino a young man asked me if I was
>> walking for
>> religious reasons or for the adventure, and I said
>> "both" (actually "los
>> dos").
>> That still seems to me the right answer, in terms of what my
>> intention was.
>>
>> However, the most important thing that I got out of my pilgrimage
>> was not
>> related to adventure or religion. ;-)
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Sculptures in copper and other metals
>> www.fergusonsculpture.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:01:26 +0100
>> From: Johnnie Walker <johnniewalker-santiago at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>> To: santiagobis <santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>,
>> <gocamino at oakapple.net>
>> Message-ID: <DUB105-W515201323F421567B0ECA88DFE0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>>
>>
>> This has been a fascinating discussion. The root of the issue is the
>> wording of
>> the Compostela which is highly prized by many pilgrims
>> particularly the
>> Spanish.
>> To remind ourselves a translation of the Latin:
>>
>> "The Chapter of this Holy Apostolic Metropolitan Cathedral of St.
>> James,
>> custodian of the seal of St. James' Altar, to all faithful and
>> pilgrims who
>> come
>> from everywhere over the world as an act of devotion, under vow or
>> promise
>> to
>> the Apostle's Tomb, our Patron and Protector of Spain, witnesses
>> in the
>> sight of
>> all who read this document, that: Mr???????has visited devoutly
>> this Sacred
>> Church in a religious sense (pietatis causa).
>>
>>
>> Witness whereof I hand this document over to him, authenticated by
>> the seal
>> of
>> this Sacred Church.
>> Given in St. James de Compostela on the (day)??(month)??A.D. ???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chapter Secretary"
>> It is the interpretation of what might qualify as pietatis causa
>> which has
>> led
>> to there being two boxes - Religious and Religious/Other. In the
>> Pilgrims
>> Office
>> if someone ticks the Non Religious box they will be asked if they
>> are sure
>> they
>> didn't walk for spiritual reasons such as a promise - the whole
>> concept of
>> the
>> Promesa lies deep in Spanish culture. I wrote about this sometime
>> ago
>> here:
>>
>>
>> http://johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com/2010/09/where-faith-and-
>> doubt-unite.html
>>
>> My conclusion is that the Religious/Other box is a bit of a fudge
>> but it is
>> well
>> intended so that people who cannot bring themselves to say they
>> walked for
>> Religious reasons have another option.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> www.johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com
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>>
>>
>> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com
>> From: dianarautenbach at yahoo.com
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 00:06:06 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> We first started walking the camino in 2006 when for "religious
>> reasons"
>> was
>> more the order of the day. With our last walk in 2011 we found
>> people to be
>> walking for reasons such as: I'm out of a job and don't know which
>> way to
>> turn,
>> maybe walking will clear my mind and give me some ideas of what to
>> do next
>> //
>> I'm bored stiff and need something new to occupy me // I'm all for
>> adventure,
>> new cultures, people, sightseeing // and this might be a nice, cheap
>> holiday
>> etc. We also found that there were very, very few religious people
>> (nuns,
>> priests etc) on our 2011 walk.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 10/6/11, Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Lynne Gilberg <lgedit at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>> To: Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com, "Richard Ferguson" <
>> richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
>> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 2:50 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Way back in the Dark Ages (2002) when I first did it, the choices
>> were:
>> ?Religious? or ?Spiritual and other reasons?. The difference is,
>> to me,
>> enormous.
>>
>> (Richard: I saw that little wink....)
>> --
>> Lynne
>> lgedit at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Richard Ferguson <richard at fergusonsculpture.com>
>> Reply-To: <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:17:49 -0600
>> To: Santiagobis Camino <Santiagobis at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [Santiagobis] Pilgrim reasons
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark said:
>>
>> I do wonder, what is the difference between "Religious and Other
>> Reasons"
>> and
>> "Religious". I would think Religious is Religious. Just wondering.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I remember when I was on Camino a young man asked me if I was
>> walking for
>> religious reasons or for the adventure, and I said
>> "both" (actually "los
>> dos").
>> That still seems to me the right answer, in terms of what my
>> intention was.
>>
>> However, the most important thing that I got out of my pilgrimage
>> was not
>> related to adventure or religion. ;-)
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Sculptures in copper and other metals
>> www.fergusonsculpture.com
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