[Gocamino] [saintjames] HI ,VERENA MAYBE YOU CAN HELP PLEASE

Tue Nov 23 10:30:24 PST 2010

Hi Joseph,
    I wouldn't like to comment on which is considered to be the original 
route or on pack weights and necessities especially if you are going to 
be using a bike.  I'll leave that to to others.  What I can do is to 
give you a link to the St Jean Pied de Port based Les Amis du Chemin St 
Jacques.  The site is mainly in French they are still working on the 
English translation.  Go to this page Profiles d'Etapes Camino Frances 
<http://www.aucoeurduchemin.org/spip/-Profils-d-Etapes-Camino-Frances,564-.html>there 
are two pdf files on there which will give you the height and distance 
of each day stage for the Camino Frances which is the one walked by the 
majority of Pilgrims.  I hope that helps
Regards
Tim Proctor
 
 Joseph Mack wrote:
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>
>
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> VERENA :
>
> HOPING YOU CAN HELP ME .
> I AM PLANING A SANTIAGO DE COMPOSTELA
> PILGRIMAGE BUT FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW :
>
> WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE ORIGINAL ROUTE?
> IS THERE ANY INFORMATION ON THE BACK PACK ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN
> WHAT IS THE AVERAGE MILEAGE PER DAY?
> HOW MUCH DO I NEED TO SPEND IN U.S. CURRENCY PER DAY?
>
> IS IT FEASABLE TO USE A MOUNTAIN BIKE FOR THE ROUTES IF ITS VERY LIGHT
> WEIGHT?
>
> INFO ON THIS WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
>
> THANKS A LOT
>
> J.P.MACK
>
> jprmack at yahoo.com <mailto:jprmack%40yahoo.com>
>
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> From: Verena Maringer <verena.ma at gmx.at <mailto:verena.ma%40gmx.at>>
> To: saintjames at yahoogroups.com <mailto:saintjames%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 3:35:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [saintjames] saint James (unknown)
>
> yes, sure... but the finisterre und muxia certificates are very pretty 
> ones *g*
>
> real pilgrimage is an inner process, a meditation.
> so no need for achbishops ;-)
>
> just walking silently....
>
> ann, just enjoy :-)
>
> buen camino
>
> :-)
>
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> > Datum: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:57:04 -0500 (EST)
> > Von: Rosina <Blaroli at aol.com <mailto:Blaroli%40aol.com>>
> > An: saintjames at yahoogroups.com <mailto:saintjames%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Betreff: [saintjames] saint James (unknown)
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Ann my dear,
> > The Fisterra and the Muxiana are not, by any stretch of the imagination
> > "Compostelas" . They are merely local mementos of having traversed some
> > stage of the Camino. The profound significance of the true 
> Compostela is, of
> > course, its affirmation of "pietatis causa" and the spiritual graces
> > thereby sought.
> >
> > Here is the Archdiocese's description of the Compostela.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Compostela
> >
> >
> > The ‘Compostela’
> >
> >
> > Since the pilgrimage to St. James’ Tomb, which spontaneously arose in
> > the 9th and 10th centuries, was institutionalised under specific
> > religious-social circumstances, it has been necessary to certify its
> >completion. For
> > this purpose pilgrims first made use of badges that could only be 
> acquired in
> > St. James, such as the scallop shell.
> > Due to the number of fakes St. James’ prelates and even the Pope had to
> > impose excommunication penalties against the falsifiers. From the 13th
> > century onwards the so-called evidential letters have been used due 
> to their
> > well-proved efficiency. These are the direct roots of the 
> Compostela. In the
> > 16th century the Catholic Monarchs constituted the Foundation of the 
> Royal
> > Hospital and ordered to erect the building nowadays occupied by the 
> Hostal
> > de los Reyes Católicos. In 1954 it was turned into a state-run parador.
> > Pilgrims were allowed to stay free for three days by presenting the
> > “Compostela”. Pilgrims’ sanitary needs – with the necessary 
> enlargements –
> > converted the institution into the most important hospital in 
> Galicia and
> > later into the central office of the famous medical school of St. James.
> > The appearance of motor vehicles and the popularisation of tourism 
> in the
> > 20th century brought about a crisis in terms of pilgrimage. The 
> effort and
> > sacrifice as a sin expiation involved in the traditional pilgrimage 
> changed
> > into a pleasant holiday activity. Civil authorities in other sanctuaries
> > began to draw up visit certificates imitating the “Compostela” – e.g.
> > in the Holy Land the Israeli Ministry of Tourism draws up a 
> certificate of
> > that kind. Thank heaven the Chapter of the Metropolitan Church of 
> St. James
> > continued drawing up the “Compostela” and claiming – almost
> > unsuccessfully – the fulfilment of the foundational engagement from 
> the Hostal
> >de
> > los Reyes Católicos. In recent times, the “Compostela” would be
> > limited to those pilgrims who walk or go on horseback for at least 
> the last
> 100
> > km or cycle for the last 200 km up to the Apostle’s Tomb in St. James.
> > The text is written in Latin. Here is the translation:
> >
> > El The Chapter of this Holy Apostolic Metropolitan Cathedral of St. 
> James,
> > custodian of the seal of St. James’ Altar, to all faithful and pilgrims
> > who come from everywhere over the world as an act of devotion, under 
> vow or
> > promise to the Apostle’s Tomb, our Patron and Protector of Spain,
> > witnesses in the sight of all who read this document, that:
> > Mr…………………has visited devoutly this Sacred Church in a religious sense
> (pietatis
> > causa).
> > Witness whereof I hand this document over to him, authenticated by the
> > seal of this Sacred Church.
> > Given in St. James de Compostela on the (day)……(month)……A.D.
> > ………
> > Canonicus Deputatus pro Peregrinis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Good Morning!
> > I am walking the Camino Fisterra in April....starting in Santiago and
> > ending in
> > Santiago. I have been doing some reading about the Fisterra and the
> > Muxiana. I
> > am a bit confused and maybe you can help me out. Am I entitled to 
> receive
> > both
> > compostelas if I am just beginning my walk from Santiago? Or am I
> > required to
> > walk a certain distance before Santiago?
> > Thanks for your help!
> > Ann
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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