[Gocamino] About Santiago 3; albergues; 2009 pilgrims.

Glenn Jilek guha2005 at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 20 13:20:16 PST 2010


Having completed 3 Caminos, I really did not meet very many people who have gotten  an illness that could be related to sanitation, although I did witness refugios in conditions that of a dubious nature.  I stayed in refugios over 90 percent of the time.  Maybe St. James and some angels look over us.  It is not something that I worry about, and will not worry about if I am blessed with another Camino opportunity.


Glenn

 

 
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> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:02:20 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] About Santiago 3; albergues; 2009 pilgrims.
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> Hi,
> I am back a few months from hospitalera duty in Salamanca. The gal who came in to help with cleaning was running a string mop over the bathroom floors and then pouring dirty water down the kitchen sink just inches away from a cupboard with a open rack style bottom that was exposed and therefore easily contaminated if one was pouring dirty liquid down that drain. I disinfected the inside of all the cupboards and taught some "field sanitation techniques" that I learned in the military. There was also stopped up shower drains. Fortunately, a guy who is a plumber by trade was taking over for a few days while my replacements were filling in the albergue in Zamora. All were warned to watch out for breaks in technique. I never trusted fellow pilgrims to properly wash and disinfect dishes and felt that I couldn't trust how they were done, so I washed and disinfected them myself-- I insisted upon! Several approaches could work to ensure that a stay-over in an albergue does not contribute toward diseases in the form of infections. We all need to be aware of these issues.
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> -Joanie 
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> From: Johnnie Walker <johnniewalker-santiago at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] About Santiago 3; albergues; 2009 pilgrims.
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> Hola
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> The water temperature preventative measures being put in place apply to all 
> albergues in Galicia whether run by local authorities or volutary organisations. 
> They are to prevent the Legionella bacteria which can lead to the potentially 
> fatal Legionairres disease. Hot water must be stored above a certain temperature 
> and the taps and showers in bathrooms must be flushed regularly - all of this 
> needs to be recorded. These are measure which have applied to hotels for some 
> time. Albergues will be able to self administer the scheme and will only need to 
> employ a contractor if through testing Legionella is shown to be present.
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> John 
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> www.johnniewalker-santiago.blogspot.com
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> > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:50:15 -0500
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> > Subject: [Gocamino] About Santiago 3; albergues; 2009 pilgrims.
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> > About Santiago 3
> > ALBERGUES.
> > Non-private albergues will now charge 5 Euros per pilgrim per night. Those 
> sponsored by religious orders will continue their “voluntary contribution” 
> (donativos) practice of centuries . Private albergues may have to increase their 
> charges since the Xunta has requested new compliances from them that include 
> fresh bed sheets, fresh pillow-cases and fresh towels. It has also been 
> recommended that storage facilities with a lock and key be provided to pilgrims 
> as soon as feasible. These new requirements are estimated to increase by 40% the 
> cost of running private albergues and, by logical consequence, what they will 
> need to charge.
> > Further, there have been other provisions required of the albergues related to 
> the prevention of salmonelosis (?). Recently Health officials visited several 
> albergues and informed them that they will have to install water-temperature 
> controls and will need to engage a private contractor to thoroughly clean and 
> sanitize the bathrooms once a week. A Xunta branch called “Administracion 
> autonomic a” (Autonomous Administration?) is in charge of overseeing compliance 
> with the new requirements.
> > The largest aggrupation of pilgrims is expected during the upcoming Holy Week. 
> Municipalities throughout the Camino had announced their intention to provide 
> sleeping facilities in their “polideportivos” (gyms, sports arenas and the 
> like); they have now stated that there will be a charge of 3 Euros for the use 
> of such sites in exchange for which the pilgrims using them will receive a 
> sleeping mattress and facilities for a hot shower. The municipality of 
> Portomarin has said, however, that they will only charge 2 Euros for a stay in 
> their polideportivo.
> > 
> > VOLUNTEERS.
> > The 86 units of Proteccion Civil (Civilian Protection) throughout the 
> municipalities that the Camino traverses have adopted a “Plan de Atencion al 
> Peregrino 2010” (Plan of attention to 2010 pilgrims). The plan provides for 
> engaging one thousand volunteers from their ranks to help and assist the 
> thousands and thousands of pilgrims that are expected to cover the various 
> Camino routes. 800,000 Euros have been allocated for this effort the focus of 
> which will be prevention of mishaps or injuries. (the number of medical 
> students, podiatrists and nurses throughout the Camino that will provide 
> whatever assistance may be needed has been tripled).
> > As for the rest of us would-be volunteers, I would strongly counsel that we do 
> so fully expecting to pay for our room and board ourselves. The set-up is still 
> lacking in organization and the people in Santiago seem to have much too much on 
> their plates to consider where and how they may be able to use volunteers. I 
> myself had offered to spend the entire month of August in Santiago, at my own 
> expense, doing whatever I could do to help , but I really could not discern that 
> my help would be needed (sigh!). Even although I was told that they “would find 
> something “for me to do, I just can’t see it. But then, one never knows, do one? 
> 
> > 
> > 2009 PILGRIMS
> > Since our esteemed techie guru Grant has taken off to Germany and thence to 
> the Camino, he probably won’t be back for a while, so I’d better post the 2009 
> Compostela-awarded Pilgrims data. They are classified into: a) nationality; b) 
> profession; c) month of arrival; d) age; e) means of locomotion; f) motive for 
> the pilgrimage; g} itinerary followed and h) point of departure. The data are 
> for the years 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009. I will post the 2009 numbers followed 
> by their equivalent 2008 figures in parenthesis.
> > I will only post the nationality of the pilgrims here. If you have any 
> questions about the other classifications please let me know.
> > 
> > NATIONALITIES. Pilgrims that earned the Compostela in 2009 came to Santiago 
> from 110 different countries in addition to Spain as follows:
> > Spain 79,007 (61,112); Germany 14,789 (15,746); Italy 10,341 (10,707); France 
> 7.459 (6,618); Portugal 4,854 (4,341); USA 2,540 (2,214; Canada 2,194 (1,933); 
> Austria 1,995 (1,847); Holland 1,916 (1,864); Ireland 1.722 (1,535); U.K. 1,700 
> (1,559); Belgium 1,410 (1,291); Poland 1,321 (1,102) Brasil 1,248 (1,365); 
> Switzerland 1,208 1,246); KOREA 1,079 (915) [***** only 84 in 2006]; Denmark 
> 1,061 (986); Sweden 1,039 (929); Australia 1,015 (1,022); Finland 825 (619); 
> Hungary 710 (730); Norway 647 (718); Mexico 638 (653); Czech Republic 618 (554); 
> Japan 526 (412); Argentina 461 (360); Slovakia 413 (249); Slovenia 357 (239); 
> Venezuela 278 (210); Colombia 273 (196); South Africa 262 (274); New Zealand 200 
> (162); Chile 120 (83); Estonia 110 (129); Rumania 104 (78); Russia 94 (72); 
> Uruguay 88 (77); Ecuador 85 (61); Lithuania 83 (54); Peru 82 (64); Andorra 69 
> (67); Israel 61 (59); Bolivia 56 (23); Croatia 55 (45); Puerto Rico 54 (48); 
> Bulgaria 52 (25); Greece 37 (26); China 35 (20); Costa Rica 35 (25); Lithuania 
> 35 (29); Ukraine 33 (29); Cuba 27 (11); Dominican Republic 27 (21); Turkey 16 
> (13); Guatemala 15 (37); Philippines 15 (22); Taiwan 14 (11); Faeroe Islands 14 
> (8); Islandia 13 (28); Paraguay 13 (9); Morocco 12 (16); Singapore 12 (9); Malta 
> 11 (16); India 11 (12); Panama 10 (5); Thailand 9 (2); Cabo Verde 8 (1); Iran 7 
> (14); El Salvador 7 (9); Honduras 7 (8); Serbia 6 (5); Indonesia 6 (4); Algiers 
> 5 (2); Nicaragua 5 (5); San Marino 5 (3); Egypt 5 (2); Cameroon 5 (2); 
> Belorussia 5 (1); Jamaica 5 (1); Lebanon 4 (8); Malaysia 4 (6); Liechtenstein 4 
> (4); Moldavia 4 (4); Nigeria 4 (2); Bosnia 4 (1); Macedonia 4 (1); Congo 4 (0); 
> Albania 3 (1); Ethiopia 3 (1); Ghana 3 (1); Jordan 3 (1); Dominica [?] 3 (0); 
> Vanuatu [?] 3 (0); Trinidad and Tobago 3 (0); Cyprus 2 (8); Togo 2 (2); Zimbabwe 
> 2 (2); Equatorial Guinea 2 (0); HAITI 2 (0); Kenya 2(0); Namibia 2 (0); Vietnam 
> 2 (3); Angola 1 (4); SriLanka 1 (1); Monaco 1 (1); Oriental Timor 1 (1); Dutch 
> Antilles 1 (0); Botswana 1 (0); Mauritania 1 (0); Senegal 1 (0). 
> > 
> > More later. Hugs!
> > Rosina
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> > Rosina
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