[Gocamino] Matajudios????

Marcus Wilder marcuswilder2 at sbcglobal.net
Thu May 7 07:16:15 PDT 2009


I sandwich bits of relevant history between chapters in my travel  
books.  There are frequently at least two versions of historical events.
In Mexico, the count goes higher.  Truth is a tattered target.

On the questions of Spain and Jews, the Jews were driven out in 1492.
Cortez landed in Mexico in 1519.  Many of the northern Mexican land  
grants were to Conversos.  More Jews gotten rid of?

May I take this opportunity to plug my newest book, ISRAEL &  
PALESTINE, Obvious Questions No One Asks?


On May 7, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Hathor821 at aol.com wrote:

> Well said, Grant!!!!
>
> Patricia de Miami
>
>
> In a message dated 5/7/2009 7:50:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> hme347 at aol.com writes:
>
> I agree  with almost everything you stated, Grant, except this part  
> of your
> response.  Don't you think that you are trivializing "History" by  
> failing
> to  acknowledge most historians' honorable intentions?  You make  
> them sound
> like they all have ulterior motives and deceit as their motives in  
> writing
> their accounts of the past.
>
>
>
> Most educated folks can  sense the difference between honest  
> accounts of
> events and distortions of what  happened in the past.  Don't you  
> think you are
> being somewhat cynical!  (Sincerely, but no phony Hugs!) Howard  
> Mendes, NYC
>
>
> Third. History  is all apologist. History is all revisionist. Nobody  
> has a
> lock
> on “WHAT  REALLY HAPPENED”.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant  Spangler <gaspangler at hotmail.com>
> To: †GoCamino OakApple  <gocamino at oakapple.net>
> Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 1:51 am
> Subject: Re:  [Gocamino] Matajudios????
>
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>
>
>
>
> My  My,
>
> First, may I say, it's good to hear from Rosina, our long lost  matron
> d'chemin.
>
> Next, it seems that whenever religion is mentioned,  the swords come  
> out of
> their
> scabbards.
>
> Third. History is all  apologist. History is all revisionist. Nobody  
> has a
> lock
> on “WHAT REALLY  HAPPENED”.
>
> I would, however, offer you to pay attention to what we can  currently
> observe.
> In realtime. Ponder today’s interaction of Muslim on  Muslim, Muslim  
> on
> Jew, and
> Muslim on Christian. Not a pretty picture. No  apologies or  
> explanations
> required. It’s rather ugly. I would venture  nothing much has chan
> ged in the last
> 500 years. People keep being  people; cultures keep doing what they do
> best,
> ethnocentrically viewing  the universe from their turf. I would  
> surmise the
> myth
> is that ‘Everyone  lived in peace and harmony in ancient Spain’. Don’t
> believe
> it, not for a  moment, thankyouverymuch. Matamoros, Mataindios,  
> Matajudios,
> Matafrancos,  Mataperros, Mataratos, Matarepublicos, Matayomama. Whole
> lotta mata
> goin'  on. Is this to say the Church was justified in it’s actions?  
> No way.
> Nor
> the Crown. Nor anybody else on the playing field. The Spanish  
> Inquisition
> was a
> textbook Machiavellian power struggle. I get yer stuff cuz God sez.   
> Top
> that.
> Was Isabel the perfect monarch? No, but she did a damn fine job  for  
> the
> cards
> she was dealt. I’d reelect her.
>
> The  Generalissimo Franco tried desperately to unify Spain with his
> heavy-handed
> techniques. That lasted until 1975. Then the demi-kingdoms once again
> split and
> the languages and cultures once again blossomed. Basque, Galego,   
> Catalá,
> Asturianu, Extremeño, and all the others were patently illegal.   
> Could not
> be
> spoken, written, or even mentioned. Spain is, and really  always has  
> been,
> a
> disparate loosely consolidated group of kingdoms and  cultures.  
> Don’t ya
> just
> love it? It’s dynamic. It’s culture. It’s Spain.  It’s Humanity.  
> It’s US.
>
> Et Viola. Le diatribe d'Grant.
>
>
> Sane  Camino,
>
> Grant
>
> Grant  Spangler
> GASpangler at hotmail.com
> http://www.ElCaminoSantiago.com
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