[Gocamino] [saintjames] Re:Two Sellos per Etapa for a Compostela

Tue Sep 11 04:41:12 PDT 2007

I also walked the Camino Frances in 2005 but did not hear about or do any "two sellos" per day.  I received the official compostela certificate with no problem.  It seems odd that the church would require pilgrims to go bars, restaurants and other secular places in order to be considered a true pilgrim.

  Cheers,
  Cheri Powell

Pat Rush <PatRush1 at verizon.net> wrote:
  Thoughts on the two sello discussion: when I walked the Camino Frances in
2005, I was informed that for the last 100 km. all the pilgrims had to have
two stamps each day in order to receive the compostela. Perhaps I
misunderstood this. However, I was diligent and got my two sello each day,
usually from bars and refugios. Has this changed? Is my understanding
correct that in order to winnow out the "true" pilgrims from the "false",
this two sello requirement is going to be made for the entire length of the
Camino Frances? Will all churches, monasteries, convents, etc. have them,
in addition to bars, restaurants and refugios? Will the churches, etc. be
open all day so that pilgrims can acquire the stamps? Will this requirement
apply also to other routes, such as the Camino de la Plata (which I hope to
walk in spring of '08)?

I don't know what the answer is to the crowds of pilgrims converging on the
Camino, stretching the infrastructure to the breaking point. It seems as if
the Spanish church, especially the church in Galicia, is trying to keep
control of the pilgrimage route, but I don't think that's possible; the
sheer numbers of pilgrims will overwhelm the ecclesiastical system. And I
wonder why. What is the appeal, the draw, that drives so many of us to give
up our lives for 5 or 8 weeks, to undergo considerable discomfort (many of
us), to make this journey? And, to do it more than once, or to walk the
other routes?

Thoughts on negative messages: there have been spirited discussions on this
site, but I have never personally received anything negative or demeaning.
Rosina, I'm sorry that you have. Your messages are full of warmth and
information, knowledge and love of Spain.

Pat Rush, upstate New York

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mary V. Wallis" 
To: ; 
Cc: ; 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [saintjames] Re:Two Sellos per Etapa for a
Compostela

> HI Rosina - am curious to know what (or who) your first paragraph (below)
> refers to. I haven't received anything negative. There is lots of
discussion
> about the decisions on sellos but I'm not picking up anything repeatedly
> provocative.
>
> Mary
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: 
> Cc: ; 
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] [saintjames] Re:Two Sellos per Etapa for a
> Compostela
>
>
> >
> >
> > It is simple and easy to avoid?receiving negative and would-be
provocative
> > e-messages?from those who seem to be compelled to send them repeatedly.
> > Just lock the e-address of such senders out of? your computer.? I have
> > done so and no longer receive them. I think we can all distinguish
between
> > honest and civil dissenting comments, which are welcome and refreshing,
> > and those pointedly anti-something and subliminally meant to attack. If
> > such messages?do not provoke the reactions hoped for the incentive to
send
> > them may cease.
> >
> > Meanwhile..... the fares to be charged by the Vatican-run Mistral
airline
> > will reportedly be below cost, since the enterprise will be
> > church-subsidized.? You can get more information about it by going to
the
> > Vatican's official Web-site :? www.vatican.va?? which is in Italian,
> > English, German, Portuguese, Spanish and French.? They have something
> > called an "internet office" for communications where one can send
requests
> > for information.
> >
> > It?does not seem likely that the?150 million religious pilgrims in
> > 2006?mentioned by Cardinal Riani were oinly Catholics. That would mean
> > that more than one in every ten of us makes a religious pilgrimage. But
> > when one thinks of the 10 or 15 million that make the pilgrimage to Our
> > Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City each year, and the millions who travel
to
> > Saint Peter in Rome, it might be possible.? Curiously, the millions of
> > pilgrims who do go to the little Brasilian town in the mountains to
visit
> > Nuestra Senhora Aparecida ?were not mentioned by the Cardinal.? I was
> > there once (it is kind of hard to get to), on a regular mid-week
day,?and
> > was bowled over by the size of the Basilica ?and the crowds and crowds
> > without end.
> >
> > The other airline that will begin to land in Lavacolla this month,
> > Pyrenair, is based in Huesca and specializes in what we would call
> > "charter" flights which, they have said, will concentrate in carrying
> > religious groups to Santiago, and other religious places of interest, at
> > the lowest cost possible.
> >
> > Hugs!
> >
> > Rosina
> >
> >
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