[Gocamino] The Cathedral

[Steve and Cathy Soud]

xm,

While the cathedral of Santiago definitely contains a tomb, your  
suggestion entirely misses the semantic point that Mary is making.   
In all churches it's called a nave, whether or not someone is  
entombed there.

I, too, have wondered about the connection between the two words and  
their different usages, and Mary's interpretation sounds plausible at  
the very least.  The thought that went into the construction of  
medieval cathedrals, whether through theological symbolism,  
acoustics, etc. was amazing.  They were the architectural wonders of  
the age.

Best,

Steve



On May 20, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Elcaminomejala at aol.com wrote:

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> Could it be that it's just a tomb, a grandiose tomb? Best, xm
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> In a message dated 5/20/2007 2:36:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> mvwallis at pathcom.ca writes:
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> HI  everyone - about the nave as church and nave as ship  
> distinction that
> Rosina referred to. There is a strong medieval tradition or topos  
> of  the
> church as a ship carrying the Christian soul across the tossing   
> ocean of
> life to salvation. There are Old Testament references that  feed  
> into this,
> e.g.,  Noah's ark, which was thought in the  patristic tradition to  
> prefigure
> the Church of the New Testament,  holding. the Christian soul in  
> safety on
> the sea etc etc.... you get  the idea. In the patristic literature  
> of the
> early Christian  fathers, you are either on the ship or off it.  
> It's bad to
> be off it  . In  many seacoast churches, especially where there  
> were sailors,
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> an actual ship replica can be found in the nave. So there is an   
> intentional
> play on words in the two  meanings.
>
> Mary
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  <blaroli at aol.com>
> To: <GoCamino at oakapple.net>;  <saintjames at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:34  AM
> Subject: [Gocamino] Cameras in Santiago
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>> Hello you  all,
>> Sil has posted a site that  accesses   cameras  showing views of  
>> three (of
>> the four) squares  around the Cathedral, and of the ambulatory  
>> people in
>> them, and  of two inside views of the Cathedral.
>> Lovely, evocative and  active views of the Quintana, Praterias and
>> Obradeiro squares  can be seen. The Quintana view includes the  
>> entrance way
>> to the  Holy Door and the door of the Archicofradia's information   
>> office.
>> For some reason, Azabacherias Square is not included  (?)
>> Also, the English translation is not precise.  The  pictures of  
>> the inside
>> of the Cathedral refer to it as the  Cathedral's "ship".  This is a
>> mistranslation of the word  "nave" which, when applied to  a  
>> church means
>> the long  narrow central hall of a church in a cruciform that  
>> rises higher
>> than the aisles flanking it.
>> While in Spanish the word  "nave" also means ship this is not the  
>> meaning
>> intended in the  titles of the pictures.
>> (By the way, Columbus' voyage was not  made on three caravels; the  
>> Santa
>> Maria was a "nave" which was  a larger ship built by the  
>> Portuguese (a
>> "nao") so that its  surface and holds would resemble somewhat the  
>> interior
>> of a  church; the Pinta and the Nina were carabels, which were  
>> smaller and
>> designed differently).
>> At any rate, the site for the  cameras is:
>>
>>  http://www.santiagoturismo.com/camaras/
>>
>> Please note that  the last word. camaras, is spelled with three  
>> "a"s, which
>> is  the  spelling in Spanish.
>>
>> Thanks again, Sil. You  really are a doll. The pictures and videos  
>> have
>> made me very  much aware of my need to go to Santiago for  
>> spiritual nurture
>>  and soul-joy.  If I didn't have to go to Rio next Tuesday, for  
>> my  one
> free
>> week before May 30th, I would take off for Santiago  forthwith.
>>
>> And, Grant, thanks for the words to the Hymn  that accompanies the
>> Botafumeiro.  I had no  idea.
>>
>> Hugs!
>>
>>  Rosina
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