[Gocamino] Gocamino Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1

Tue Aug 1 20:17:44 PDT 2006

Hi Excavadora,
Erase any thought of carrying a stove with you.
Everyone's comments are reflective of their experience on the Camino and I 
would heed their advice.
During our 2004 walk I abserved only one pilgrim with a utinsel........a 
small steel cup and small electric submersion heater for morning coffee. 
My wife and I always enjoyed the village cafe's.

Buen Camino
Roger

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> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:27:26 -0400
> From: blaroli at aol.com
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> A stove, etc., would  just be one more thing to carry and, in my view, 
> totally unnecessary. The towns and villages are very close to one another 
> and there are "bars" (coffee-shops, sort-of) everywhere.  In all my 
> caminos I never not  found food and drink when I wanted it.
> Further, after walking and walking all day I doubt one would find the 
> energy, or the desire, to do any cooking, particularly since one knows 
> that one must get up at the crack of dawn the next day to walk and walk 
> and walk all over again. (as opposed to camping, when one goes to a chosen 
> place and stays there).
> Regards,
> Rosina
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> From: excavadora at fastmail.fm
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> Sent: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 9:29 AM
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> Opinions, please, on the desirability -- or otherwise -- of taking a
> small, gas-powered camping stove to cook the occasional meal and/or
> early morning coffee.
> It seems that some refuges do not have stoves (or they are not
> working/not available).
> Equally, does anyone know about availability of the small gas cylinders
> (screw top type, NOT the Camping Gaz ones that have to be pierced).
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> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:06:29 -0400
> From: Renato Alvarado Vidal <machi at telsur.cl>
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] Cooking as you go
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>> Opinions, please, on the desirability -- or otherwise -- of taking a
>> small, gas-powered camping stove
>
> Dear Excavadora, I should not carry such burden; arriving Burgos I
> get rid even of the can opener :-)
>
> Machi
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> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:21:30 -0700
> From: "Grant Spangler" <gaspangler at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] Cooking as you go
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> I think I own 3 mountain stoves; it never even occured to me to bring one.
> You will start to think in 'economy of motion' terms once you begin 
> walking.
> I doubt you would be inspired to even boil water, let alone cook & clean 
> up.
> Fuel availability is another issue. There are so many variants on camping
> stoves and the fuel they consume.
>
> Simplify your life. Leave the accoutrements and complexities at home. 
> Dobles
> con leche are always available. Walk.
>
> Buen Camino,
>
> Grant
>
> Grant Spangler
> GASpangler at hotmail.com
> http://groups.msn.com/ElCaminoSantiago
> http://community.webshots.com/user/ElCaminoSantiago
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:24:23 EDT
> From: Hathor821 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] Cooking as you go
> To: machi at telsur.cl, Gocamino at oakapple.net
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> Weight is of the essence!
>
> Along your way you will see many pilgrims sending boxes to  Santiago or to
> other locations with 'unnecessary' stuff they brought along...you  find 
> ever
> ything...in el camino...every 8 or a bit more of KM  you can  have your 
> coffee for
> 1 Euro, your Spanish tortilla for 1 Euro, pilgrim menu is 8  Euro and you 
> can
> carry your few fruits and water to eat from town to  town....some few
> albergues have some left over salt, pepper, olive oil and a few  dishes 
> where you can
> even prepare yourself a nice salad...like in 'Montes de  Oca'
>
> Trust me, one thing is to walk 20 KM with nothing on your  back, another 
> is
> when you have to carry your life in your back!
>
> Patricia
> Miami and my camino
> ps. the above prices are not in the big  cities
>
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> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 00:28:51 EDT
> From: Hathor821 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Gocamino] Cooking as you go
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> Oh...one thing that I found extremely necessary and that I  missed all the
> rest of my short camino:
>
> The concept of 'to go' doesn't exist in the little towns along  the 
> camino.
> Take with you a jar, plastic with a good seal, like the one  you have to 
> turn
> and turn to close and open. Coffee is delicious and  sometimes I wanted to
> take more 'to go' and this jar was invaluable to  me....ditto for any 
> other
> liquid like wine, the left over from the chep kind  that is included in 
> your
> pilgrim menu...a little wine before going to bed will  make you sleep 
> better or
> snore more...depending if you are a woman or a  man.
>
> Patricia
> Miami y mi camino
>
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> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:32:07 -0400
> From: t <misstinuviel at lovenotwar.us>
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> hi excavadora
>
> i would agree with everyone about not carrying the stove. it will
> probably be much more hassle than merit.
> early morning coffee is nearly everywhere.
>
> the small jar sounds a good idea. i never noticed a lack but what i
> found indispensible was a tupperware container. any fruit, extra food
> etc i would put in that. one which seals well. that way, it doesn't get
> all over your stuff and you can snack on the middle of the mountain.
>
> i would dispute the 'too tired to cook'. i was always absolutely
> excited when the albergue i found myself had a working stove and a pan.
> i immediately would go out and pick up food to fix a big meal. often
> with 3 or 4 other folks. it was always a great time and a great way to
> spend time with the other peregrinos.  i carried 2 pairs of chopsticks
> with me. often there are no utensils. this way, i could always invite
> someone to eat with me. the times i was too tired to cook, i was also
> too tired to eat. it might be just my personality. i love food and love
> to cook so it invigorates me. especially the challenge of cooking with
> ingredients i'm unfamiliar and not having  'the right things'.
>
>  i remember times picking wild herbs on the walk hoping and hoping for
> a kitchen in the evening. i also have memories of twice picking a large
> bag of wild mushrooms in galicia and twice having no kitchen and no way
> to prepare them. the 2nd time was in muxia. jaanika and i walked into
> restaurants asking if we could use the stove so we could get them
> cooked but no one would let us. we even asked strangers on the street.
> i guess the request was too unusual. and maybe peregrinos too rare in
> muxia. we sadly composted our day's harvest. but we had a great time
> picking them on the way and the experience is very memorable!
>
> tinuviel
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2006, at 9:29 AM, excavadora at fastmail.fm wrote:
>
>> Opinions, please, on the desirability -- or otherwise -- of taking a
>> small, gas-powered camping stove to cook the occasional meal and/or
>> early morning coffee.
>> It seems that some refuges do not have stoves (or they are not
>> working/not available).
>> Equally, does anyone know about availability of the small gas cylinders
>> (screw top type, NOT the Camping Gaz ones that have to be pierced).
>>
>> Cheers
>> -- 
>>
>>   excavadora at fastmail.fm
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> Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:05:10 +0200
> From: Sil <sillydoll at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Gocamino] News from Sevilla and Santo Domingo
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>  DNA tests confirm Columbus tomb authenticity
>
> By: ThinkSpain
>
> <http://www.thinkspain.com/news/fotonoticia.asp?CodNoticia=11576&foto=foto11576.jpg>It
> has been confirmed that the human remains entombed in Sevilla cathedral
> definitely belonged to Christopher Columbus. Jos? Antonio Lorente, who led
> the investigation team from the Genetic Identification Laboratory, said
> yesterday that DNA tests carried out on the incomplete skeleton left no 
> room
> for doubt that they are of the famous explorer.
>
> Mr Lorente went on to explain that he and his team have been waiting for a
> year and a half to receive permission to carry out similar analyses on
> remains in Santo Domingo, the capital of the Dominican Republic, which are
> also claimed to be Columbus's.
>
> While it is "certain" that the Sevilla cathedral remains are authentic, 
> only
> about 15% of the skeleton was found, and it is possible that part of
> the corpse was taken to the island he discovered to be buried there.
>
> It is believed that the 'Admiral of the Ocean' was first buried in 
> Sevilla,
> then dug up and taken to Valladolid from where they were returned to 
> Sevilla
> in 1795, when the body was divided up so that his remains could be laid to
> rest on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.
>
>
> -- 
> Sil
>
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