Matamoros statue in the Cathedral a recent message in a Dutch newspaper

[pieter pannevis]

Dear all,

AMSTERDAM - unknown people spread a call to the jihad in the Netherlands by
means of mail addresses. Court interpreter and sworn translator Arab Hamdy
Abdel Gawad has asked for an investigation at the police forces. 'I want
that this becomes cleared', thus Abdel Gawad. The world leaders, also
premier Balkenende (Dutch Prime minister), are advised submit itself in the
mail to Islam or other to resign. Dutch General information and security
service (AIVD), which yielded the threat of Islamic terrorism called
considerable, didn't want to comment on it
. In Moslem circles to the origin of the mail had to been sought and the
book "the true Moslem", has been under surveillance. Abdel Gawad is one of
the interpreters of the twelve Moslems who were accused in Rotterdam for
terrorist plans, but previous year because of lack of proof has been
cleared. He says have been scared of the tone in jihad-mail. The recall and
the translation of the book appear in the name of Abu Zubair. The writer of
the book is called Diyaaud'deen Al'Qudsee. Names which refers directly to
Bin Ladens group Qua'ida. Possibly it concerns here a new group. These
messages are always more often spread by e-mail, because the Internet sites
"surrender.nl" usual for this aim or supportersharia.nl have been blocked.
Islam is truth and the Western society will end, stands in the message. 'The
democratic scheme is nothing else then a system that aims at people into
slaves of themselves. The media are considered as the devil, which
manipulates the behaviour of the mass. Integration the only solution is
called, integration in the sense of Islamic subjection. 'Bush, Tony Blair,
Chirac, Balkenende cannot go on with their integration concept to that of
Islam, thus they must yield. They will taste the spirit in the hell of
humiliation. The spirit of Jihad is hovering over the Earth.
May I quote a letter from a friend:
"Too often do we try to pre-empt attitudes and I doubt that this is what the
vast majority of moderate Muslims would even want.

I feel that it is spurious to draw these kinds of parallels. Comparing
twenty first century problems with medieval history will create more tension
and serve to draw attention to the paranoia which is becoming all to
apparent in national institutions throughout the western world. I further
feel it is right to be proud of our history and heritage. We teach history
as we believe it to have happened, warts and all! We teach our children
about our disasters along with our triumphs.

The moors were a once mighty and civilised nation, the centres in Andalucia
attracted the greatest minds of the time. Cordoba and Seville were among the
most illustrious cities in the Europe when ruled by the moors. This is a
part of history which we teach. We also teach of the advances in science and
the arts which came from moorish learning in Southern Spain.

If we also wish to remember and teach of how battles were won and lost
centuries ago, and learn the lessons contained therein, then we must be free
from fear and paranoia of what may befall unless we hide some unappealing
fact from modern fundamentalists of any religion.

The news that the statue of Santiago Matamoros is to be moved on this basis
is sad indeed "
and one I wrote to a good gfriend of mine:
"Yes here is this great thing which says: "Love your God, with whole your
soul. Your heart and your mind and..Thy neighbour as yourself. This is the
ultimate law!
Times chances indeed and history proves us that history proves us nothing
and that history making is always on the side of the winners.

Over the years we have seen  (in the groups discussions) that the image of
Santiago Matamoras has been transformed to Santiago Pilgrim.
That's good. Love thy neighbour!

However this whole thing comes out of fear; just imagine as bombs going of
during the festivities.
Why are the Spanish troops called back...out of fear!

The local council found it more appropriate to have a welcoming Santiago
pilgrim more or less at one of the main gate into the cathedral than a
killer one!
But please go to tell that to the relatives of the dead.

Yes I know these are extremists, but this a way of blackmailing.
One anecdote from the war.

Denmark was occupied and the king decided to stay with his people. Then as
time goes by (beautiful film by the way) it was ordained that the Jews must
have this yellow star on their jackets...guess what...next day the king on
his morning cycling tour he wore a yellow star.

We should never give in to blackmail!
If other faiths do not like OUR church and the heritage (Clavijo) they just
skip Santiago or do not enter.
The church of Santiago is deeply imbedded in the roots of Spain
Next they will remove the Matamoras from the roof of the cathedral.

What if in next generations Auswitchz and Birkenau or what ever should be
removed, as it was too harsh for the new Germans.
The "Klaagmuur", (the wall of sorrow?) part of the temple in Jerusalem would
be demolished for it was a too strong reminder of Judaism.

I would love to follow your thesis, but I'm afraid that being meek (the
cantata of last Sunday was; I'm the good Sheppard"), we will get into realms
of George Orwell where history is rewritten, or like a film as Soylent
Green.

Do you really think that Christians (or Jews) have the same rights in Muslim
countries...see the Philippines or Indonesia?
I do hope I'm wrong

Today the EU has been extended with 10 new members.
The world is going to be too global

pieter, trigo and mickey
duifhuis 58,
3862 jj Nijkerk
the Netherlands
mailto:pieterpannevisagmx.net