John, you are so right. I have read Shirley's book but have not been yet and I had exactly the impression you described. May have to read it again once I am back. Thanks for saying it. Leonie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.oakapple.net/pipermail/gocamino/attachments/20020211/68e51961/attachment.htm