<div dir="ltr"><div><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-25e05050-7fff-df95-e0b1-133fc85c276a"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">CFP Meeting</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">2026/10/28: 8:00 AM PDT/3:00 PM UTC</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[Please submit proposed changes to these minutes to Jerome or to the group. Revision changes appear at the bottom.]</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Attendees and introductions</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">       Rajan Bhakta, Jerome Coonen, Ariel Burton, Joshua Cranmer, David Hough</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Agenda</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">  </span><a href="https://cfp-wiki.esi.com.au/pub/CFP/WebHome/n3995.pdf" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://cfp-wiki.esi.com.au/pub/CFP/WebHome/n3995.pdf</span></a></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Previous meeting notes</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">  </span><a href="https://cfp-wiki.esi.com.au/pub/CFP/WebHome/260930-Notes.pdf" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://cfp-wiki.esi.com.au/pub/CFP/WebHome/260930-Notes.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - 2026/09/30 Minutes</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Study group logistics</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    Next meeting: 27 January 2027, 8:00 AM PDT/3:00 PM UTC</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    ISO Zoom teleconference: </span><a href="https://iso.zoom.us/j/9495503012?pwd=vHaKRZLdPqqyOkfDlPVblVgXbIbzeY.1" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://iso.zoom.us/j/9495503012?pwd=vHaKRZLdPqqyOkfDlPVblVgXbIbzeY.1</span></a></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    Note: Zoom link may change for this meeting or in the future. Email update will be provided if it is for this meeting.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    Rajan:The Wednesday before U.S. Thanksgiving is the only day for a meeting between WG14 and the December CFP break. That day won’t work for most of the group.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    Jerome: Why don’t we treat November as a retreat month to pick up the threads of the many carry-over items we’ve been sitting on. Perhaps we can get more active on the reflector, given that several items do not require huge debate.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">C documents</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    The latest C2Y draft is N3886 2026/05/24: </span><a href="https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3886.pdf" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n3886.pdf</span></a></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    C23 has been published ISO/IEC 9899, available for purchase. </span><a href="https://www.iso.org/standard/82075.html" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://www.iso.org/standard/82075.html</span></a></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">IEEE 754 update</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">David: The group is reducing the set of outstanding issues but apparently expanding the scope of the standard.  As chair of the 2019 committee, I can’t imagine how the 1985 process would have worked had email been in use then.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Jerome: Funny you mention that. Here is a 754-1985 update, a bit off topic. I’ve scanned a pretty complete set of the paper mailings 1978-1983. In support of some researchers looking at the collaborative aspects of the standards process, I indexed the mailings into a large table -- rows are contributors in order of appearance, columns are months over the duration, and cells have brief notes about each item in the respective mailing. Some interesting pictures emerge.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">WG14 update</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Rajan: The next meeting is 2026/11/16-21 in Brazil. Both C & C++ groups meet concurrently (suboptimal, but for logistical reasons). Many participants will be calling in.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">C++ liaison</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Joshua: Yes, our meetings are coincident with C. In a recent vote, the 2026 draft failed amid much debate. There will be a few fp papers in the coming meeting. Guy’s work on an “Annex F” has stalled for now given other priorities. A topic of possible interest is new work in decomposing floating point numbers. This is a link to a working paper.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2026/p4382r0.html">https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2026/p4382r0.html</a></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">TS-4 and TS-5 revisions</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">None</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">News</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">None</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carryover action items from last meeting</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred: Add to open items list the issue in 3928 from Trevor regarding the awkward language in H.4.1 regarding whether or not functions need to be supported, based on what types are supported.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred: Submit the nextafter/nexttoward proposal in email 3963.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Ariel & group: Investigate the sign of fromfp(-0.0) across IBM compilers and other systems.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Joshua has reported in email. Carry over for Ariel.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred & group: With input from the group, expand rationale and discussion of nextafter and zero cases</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Group: Interested members submit input on Fred’s email 3964 re. nextafter() behavior around zero.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Group: Submit thoughts about how SNaNs ought to behave in the printf/scanf functions.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over, noting Jim submitted a comment.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Action items from last meeting</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Damian & Rajan: Damian to send clean copies of Annex F Intro & Special Cases to Rajan, who will submit to WG14.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Done</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Jerome & Joshua & group: Research the use of “range of representable values”, what its definition might be, how the term itself might be rephrased, and its ties to C++ and to related C concepts like model numbers.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Discussion of issues (as of 2026/09/28)</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3962] Quantum of fromfp</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred Tydeman - For reference (completed item)</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Closed</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3966] SNaN not raise invalid</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Fred Tydeman</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry-over</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3967] Annex F - Introduction + SpecialCases</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Damian McGuckin</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over pending WG14 response</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3969] Re: binary vs decimal sNaN initialization</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Rajan Bhakta</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Not making meeting -- carry over</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3965] Model numbers and double-double</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Fred Tydeman</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:12pt" role="presentation"><a href="https://mailman.oakapple.net/pipermail/cfp-interest/2026-September/003992.html" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 4010] Re: What do existing fromfp functions do for -0.0 result?</span></a><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Joshua Cranmer</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Joshua -- LLVM returns -0 for all test cases, per email cfp3979. glibc libm might also support it. </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carry over</span></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Other issues</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><a href="https://cfp-wiki.esi.com.au/pub/CFP/WebHome/c26i.pdf" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://cfp-wiki.esi.com.au/pub/CFP/WebHome/c26i.pdf</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Rajan: Suggests visiting this list on wiki as we look to 2027.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Adjournment</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">    8:43 AM PDT</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">-</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">----------------------------------------------</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Action items to be carried over</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred: Add to open items list the issue in 3928 from Trevor regarding the awkward language in H.4.1 regarding whether or not functions need to be supported, based on what types are supported.</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred: Submit the nextafter/nexttoward proposal in email 3963.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Ariel: Investigate the sign of fromfp(-0.0) across IBM compilers and other systems.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred & group: With input from the group, expand rationale and discussion of nextafter and zero cases</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Group: Interested members submit input on Fred’s email 3964 re. nextafter() behavior around zero.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Group: Submit thoughts about how SNaNs ought to behave in the printf/scanf functions.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Jerome & Joshua & group: Research the use of “range of representable values”, what its definition might be, how the term itself might be rephrased, and its ties to C++ and to related C concepts like model numbers.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">New action items</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">None </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Carryover discussion items</span></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3962] Quantum of fromfp</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Fred Tydeman - For reference (completed item)</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3966] SNaN not raise invalid</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Fred Tydeman</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3967] Annex F - Introduction + SpecialCases</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Damian McGuckin</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3969] Re: binary vs decimal sNaN initialization</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Rajan Bhakta</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" role="presentation"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 3965] Model numbers and double-double</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> - Fred Tydeman</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:12pt" role="presentation"><a href="https://mailman.oakapple.net/pipermail/cfp-interest/2026-September/003992.html" style="text-decoration:none"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[cfp-interest 4010] Re: What do existing fromfp functions do for -0.0 result?</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br><br></span></a></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Signoff</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:18pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Respectfully submitted.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">-Jerome Coonen</span></p></span><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div>
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