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<p class="MsoNormal"> <b>Attendees</b>: Rajan, Jim, Fred, Vivian, Damian, David H.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> New agenda items (https://wiki.edg.com/pub/CFP/WebHome/n3056.pdf):<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> None.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Next Meeting(s):<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> November 16, 2022, 3PM UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> ISO Zoom teleconference<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Please notify the group if this time slot does not work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Carry over action items:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Done unless specified otherwise.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Details below in "Carry-over action items results" section.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Last meeting action items:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Done unless specified otherwise.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Details below in “Action items results” section.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> New action items:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim/Fred: Re editorial review comment JT-096: Reword "matches" -> "uses" and reword value 2's description to say something like "following the specification for IEC 60559 operations". Also say that it uses the IEC 60559 storage format.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Rajan: I can send David H. and David K. an email seeing what they are asking for to be a valid liaison for IEEE to WG14.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> All: Ensure the email addresses on the wiki are up to date. Can send the updated information to Jim Thomas or edit the wiki themselves.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: Ensure the email addresses on the wiki are up to date.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> C++ liaison:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Nothing new.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> C23 integration:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> New draft available. N3054.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Revised C23 schedule: https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2984.pdf<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Comments and discussions when the CD ballot comes out must be through the national body, not CFP.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> C23 draft review:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> See CFP2529 and follow up, CFP2538, CFP2543, CFP2544.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Fred: Some of my comments did not seem to show up. May be my pdf viewer.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: Seems to be the viewer.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: Most comments are formatting problems or table/list/annex issues. Annex H for example. Some for italics/bold/fonts. Not much consistency. Hoping that got cleared up. Color was inconsistent too but it will be removed for the ballot
document.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Fred: My list I sent in was incomplete, just sent in some as examples.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: JT-096: If you have 2, what does that parenthetical mean?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Fred: All subnormal support?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: Intel has a pure library for all IEEE 754 operations. Would that fit?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Rajan: It can be more type specific information than what you get in Annex F's conformance macro.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: Can say following the specification for IEC 60559 formats in Annex F, but not necessarily full conformance to Annex F.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Fred: Without subnormals, it can still be 1 since it has the right format, but not the operations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: Yes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> David H: 'uses' instead of 'matches' is better for the 0, 1, 2 cases a well as the starting paragraph text.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> ^Jim/Fred: Re JT-096, reword "matches" -> "uses" and reword value 2's description to say something like "following the specification for IEC 60559 operations"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> JT-097:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Fred: If you sometimes support subnormals, is TRUE_MIN useful?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: The CD version of the draft may have this removed already.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Carry-over action items results:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> David H: Get an example for the scaled reduction functions (perhaps by asking Jason or Jim or looking into the IEEE references). - Not done.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> See CFP2547 for a starting point.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> David: I can do the pseudo code that looks like C. But need someone to review it. When I'm there, I'll ask for help. This was Khan's original justification. I expect anything involving factorials can get like this pretty quickly.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> David H: Get an example for the augmented arithmetic functions (perhaps by asking Jason or Jim or looking into the IEEE references). - Not done.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> David: Have asked Jason and Jim.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Fred: I would recommend complex multiply/divide.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> David: A good thought. Complex multiplication is probably the best. Simple enough to understand and complicated enough to see the value of the augmented functions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Action items results (from previous meeting):<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Rajan: Send Ian information on joining SCC's SC22 mirror committee.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Done. No reply.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Everyone: If you are in doubt about your membership, contact Rajan, Jim, and Fred.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> See [Cfp-interest 2517] Fwd: [WG 14 SG Chairs] Study Group Membership<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Fred: OK now, but may be my last year unless something cheaper is found.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> David: What do I need to show I am good from IEEE's side?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> ^Rajan: I can send you an email seeing what they are asking for to be a valid liaison for IEEE to WG14.
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Jim: I can update Rajan's comment and send it up for review before I submit it Monday.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> See [Cfp-interest 2538] CFP review of C23 draft N3047 - documents<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Other issues<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Review TS part 4 revision<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> See [Cfp-interest 2454] Re: post-C23 update for TS 18661-4<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> TS part 5 revision<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b> Others?<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> ^All: Ensure the email addresses on the wiki are up to date. Can send the updated information to Jim Thomas.<o:p></o:p></p>
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