<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Attendees: Fred, Jim, Marius, Ian, David</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Old action items:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim to post spreadsheet: Done</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim to check if a new WG14 document
number is needed: Yes. Done</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Ian and Rajan to review intro:
Good as it is. Done</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim to describe more changes:
Done</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Next meeting: May 16th, 2013</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">New action items:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> AI: Jim to check with David to
go back to old conference number</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> AI: Jim to send out an email
to see if 12:30-2:30 pm EST (30 minutes earlier than the original time)
is OK for time - Consensus to do this on the call so no email needed.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> AI: Jim to send new words for
Part 1 comment 17.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> AI: Jim to send new words for
Part 1 comment 25.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> AI: Everyone to review Part 2
to make sure it is ready for full official WG14 review</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Discussion:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Fred: Have we resolved how we
are working as a subgroup of WG14? Two wikis for example.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim: Not going very well since
he is still doing double posting. Awkward situation.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Rajan: Is Secure C doing this?
They seem to be doing their own on the side without too much WG14 impact.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Fred: Prefer keeping this separate</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Part 1 comments:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim: Proposed new text is what
the comment submitter posted. John Benito suggested we add a column for
our response.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Comment from Willem Walker: Change
all "Suggested changes to C11" to "Changes to C11"
in our document. Consensus is to make the change.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Comment from Joeseph Myers regarding
Table 2 and wchar functions and atof. Consensus is to make the change.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Spreadsheet comments and consensus:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 1-2: Make the changes</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 3: Remove first line only</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 4: No main doc changes</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 5: Remove the second instance.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 6: Fred: Reorder the 5
section for all 3 documents.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 7: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 8 (wprintf, wscanf): Accept
changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 9: Discussion about how
to format. Decided on round dark bullets and no punctuation.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 10: Accept changes. Change
line number to 24 in the comment.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 11 (log function typeface):
Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 12: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 13: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 14: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 15: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 16: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 17 (llogb): Need to reword
this. AI for Jim to do.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 18: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 19: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 20: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 21: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 22 (real floating): Rajan:
math.h so shouldn't have complex. Jim: Consistent with others if we do
not accept complex. Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 23: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 24 (four macros vs three):
Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 25: David: Need a way
to find out if it is signalling without signalling.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim: Wide evaluation
is the issue. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> David: Should only
apply to variables, not expressions. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim: Works for
variables and expressions generally. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> David: Add a reference
to F.3. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Fred: How about
F.3#5? </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim: The standard
never references paragraph numbers. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> AI: Jim to show
the words of the F.3 reference being a footnote.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 26: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 27 (imput): Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 28: Accept changes. Add
parenthesis for clarity as well.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 29: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 30: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 31 (old): Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 32: Accept changes.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> 33: Accept changes except
the line 25 change. Also remove the bold and typeface of "and"
on line 11.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Part 2 review:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim: I want to make this follow
Part 1 by one WG14 meeting. This means we can have a WG14 review in May
or June for this.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Example 3 on page 29: Output
is in "e" format now.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Jim: A number of other editorial
changes made.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Part 3:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> This Spring 2013 meeting will
be the first time the full WG14 will see Part 3.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> This means we need Part 4 draft
for early September to get into the October mailing.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> The changes to the type system
is risky so needs to be looked at closely.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Issue: quantexpd* functions may
have the exponent > INT_MAX so the return type would not work (overflow)</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> *I can send a note suggesting
_DecimalN as the return type</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Type generic should be looked
at still.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Regards,<br>
<br>
Rajan Bhakta<br>
z/OS XL C/C++ Compiler Technical Architect<br>
ISO C Standards Representative for Canada<br>
C Compiler Development<br>
Contact: rbhakta@ca.ibm.com, Rajan Bhakta/Toronto/IBM<br>
Telephone: (905) 413-3995</font>