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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>CFP Study Group Meeting Minutes, Oct. 5, 2009-10-05<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>=========================================<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Steve Canon <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Marius Cornea<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>David Hough<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Mathew Koshy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ian McIntosh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Rich Painter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Eric Schwartz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jim Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Fred Tydeman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Liang-Kai Wang<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Not attending today:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Walter Banks <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Rajan Bhakta<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>William Kahan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jeff Kidder<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Alex Liu<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Raymond Mak<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ian: Robert Enenkel from IBM will participate starting next
time; Ian may not attend regularly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ian: correct error in notes of last time - Fred is in <st1:City
w:st="on">Reno</st1:City>, not <st1:City w:st="on">Austin</st1:City>; and Eric
is in <st1:City w:st="on">Poughkeepsie</st1:City>, not <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Austin</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jim – Action items from previous meeting:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ian to send out note – DONE<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ACTION ITEM </span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> John
B. & Jim put together liaison stmt for WG14 at the end of the months
– keep as action item for next time<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> We mentioned documents we need for work – Jim
should post for free access; Fred provided some, up on the Wiki now;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Eric obtained final 754-2008
from IEEE for our use, up on Wiki now - DONE<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Nominate someone to chair the meeting:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Marius: suggests
Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: is available
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Ian: nominates
Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Eric: seconds
nomination<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: accepts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Rich Painter:
moves that the nomination be closed<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: decision is
final – Jim is the chair of the study group<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dinkumware agreed to set up a wiki
for us – DONE (we should go forward with that wiki)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Which subgroup would people like to
participate in, and whether they would like to lead them – not done yet
– will start today<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Study group logistics:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: Dinkumware used CFP
– C Floating-Point – for the wiki; we have a group login name; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> We agree to "C Floating Point"
as the name of the study group<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Rich: we are not identifying
the players; we could sign each entry with our names; it would be nice to be
able to identify entries automatically<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Fred: have been doing that
for more than 10 years; never an issue<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: the wiki mostly for
posting documents<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> ACTION
ITEM </span></font><font size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> All should check the
participant info: email addresses, etc. and should add any useful
references/links<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Email Reflector:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: this is where most of
the discussion will be; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> David Hough: has set up the
email reflector<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> David sent
this link: <a href="http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/cfp-interest"><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'>http://mailman.oakapple.net/mailman/listinfo/cfp-interest</span></font></a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> All topics
will appear in the archive, prefixed with the subject name<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: asks David to try
this out and let us know if/how it works<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> ACTION ITEM </span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> David
will try this out and will let us know if/how it works<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: we got a name, a wiki,
and an email reflector<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim: we do not need an editor yet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Next meeting: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: this time slot (on
Monday) seems to work; monthly frequency ok -> Nov 2<sup>nd</sup> for next
meeting<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: subgroups<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Rich Painter: wondering
if we could have a 10000 ft discussion about the intention for each of these
categories<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jim: the document
we produce would have an introduction about the feature we want to add to the
language; a list of changes needed; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Ian: and a rationale
for why we want to add these<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Formats Group:
Jim (lead), Steve, Mathew, Ian, Liang-Kai, Eric, Marius<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Extendable
Formats Group: Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>
ACTION ITEM </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:
Wingdings'>è</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial'> Jim to meet with Steve about how to proceed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Attributes Group:
David (lead), Fred<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Rounding
Attributes, Modes, Flags: Jim (will initiate), David, Fred, Steve, Eric<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Functions Group:
Rich (lead), Steve, Eric, Fred, Marius, Ian, Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> NaNs Group: Fred
(lead), Liang-Kai, Jim, Eric, Ian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Alternate Exc.
Handling Group: David (lead), Liang-Kai, Fred<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Expression
Evaluation Group: Jim (will initiate), Fred, David, Ian, Mathew<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Reproducible
Results Group: David (lead), Liang-Kai, Eric, Mathew, Marius<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Debugging Support
Group: William Kahan (lead, if interested), Rich<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Conversions
to/from Character Sequences Group: Jim (lead), Fred, Marius<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Rich: want to begin homework; will
interaction be using email addresses that Jim has been using<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> ACTION ITEM </span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> all to
register on the reflector<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> ACTION ITEM </span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim to set
up wiki pages on each topic<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> ACTION ITEM </span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Subgroups to
post results of their discussions by next time<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim: a few people were here at the 1<sup>st</sup>
meeting, but not the 2<sup>nd</sup> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:6.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>End of Minutes<font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'>, </span></font>Oct. 5, 2009-10-05<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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